[CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Tue Dec 9 09:33:43 UTC 2014


Dear All,
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG
activities .
I do not understand how the re[preventatives of

2014-12-09 10:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch>:

> Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says:
>
> "Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all
> CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However,
> should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus
> call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed
> by the chartering organizations."
>
> That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights.
>
> Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand that
> the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the drafting
> team for the charter):
>
> > Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN
> > accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time
> > frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
> >
> > In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the
> > IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global
> multistakeholder
> > community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
> >
> > In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere
> > to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure,
> with
> > decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of
> stakeholders,
> > namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
> >
> > There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders conducting
> > consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the
> > CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
> >
> > But it is not a process that is truly open to the global multistakeholder
> > community.
> >
> > Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right to
> > submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs
> > of the CCWG.
>
> So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the
> group.
>
> Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter?
>
> Thanks and best,
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan
> Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57
> To: Thomas Rickert
> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
>
>
> Mathieu, Thomas and all,
>
>
> I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to
> that discussion, to be found at
> https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Greg Shatan
>
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> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and
> participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
>
>
> Kindest regards,
> Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
>
>
> Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi at gmail.com
> >:
>
>
> +1 Greg
> +1 Pamela
> -1 Arasteh
>
>
> I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or
> humiliating.
> We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect for
> the process.
> We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
>
>
> Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure rights
> and obligations?
> Moderator(s) should put us through.
> -AA.
>
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> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Rec'd with thx.
> Rudi Daniel
> ICT consulting & lighting products
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> On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert at anwaelte.de> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on
> Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter
> has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory
> Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO),
> Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely
> to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
> Meetings
> The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for
> Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC  (call details will be circulated shortly).
> Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between
> 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account
> the different time zones.
> Participation
> In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there
> are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are
> participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are
> expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as
> meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input
> to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering
> organization appointed members.
> Statements of Interest (SOI)
> If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of
> Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (
> https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement
> which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a
> certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort,
> areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material
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> Mailing List Observers
> Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and
> individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those
> interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary
> to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in
> mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will
> have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not
> receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note
> that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the
> CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any
> point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant
> should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
>  As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your
> earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change
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> Preparation for the first meeting
> In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability, you
> are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting.
> Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop a
> work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You
> are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate
> these tasks with the mailing list.
> I look forward to working with you.
> Kind regards,
> Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
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