[CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note

Tue Dec 9 09:35:34 UTC 2014

Dear All,
Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG
activities .
I do not understand how the repreventatives of  ICG would be given the
right to take part in consensus building.The confusion came from the
message sent by T

2014-12-09 10:33 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:

> Dear All,
> Most of the thing foreseen to be done are directly related to ICG
> activities .
> I do not understand how the re[preventatives of
>
> 2014-12-09 10:22 GMT+01:00 Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch>:
>
>> Indeed, in Section IV, under "Membership Criteria", the charter says:
>>
>> "Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all
>> CCWG-accountability meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However,
>> should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus
>> call or decision will be limited to CCWG-Accountability members appointed
>> by the chartering organizations."
>>
>> That is, "participants" do not have decision-making rights.
>>
>> Here is what I had to say about this on 11 November (and I understand
>> that the message in question was transmitted to the co-chairs of the
>> drafting team for the charter):
>>
>> > Work Stream 1 of this group is "focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN
>> > accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time
>> > frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition;"
>> >
>> > In this context, it is important to note that the NTIA called for the
>> > IANA stewardship function to be transitioned to "the global
>> multistakeholder
>> > community", which is broader than the existing ICANN constituency.
>> >
>> > In contrast, the Accountability CCWG, while stating that it will adhere
>> > to the principle of opennes, has in fact created a two-tier structure,
>> with
>> > decision-making power being restricted to a specific group of
>> stakeholders,
>> > namely those currently involved in the domain name business.
>> >
>> > There is of course nothing wrong with a subset of stakeholders
>> conducting
>> > consultations and presenting proposals, so I have no objection to the
>> > CCWG per se and I am not prejudging the output of the CCWG.
>> >
>> > But it is not a process that is truly open to the global
>> multistakeholder
>> > community.
>> >
>> > Therefore I will not participate as an observer and I reserve my right
>> to
>> > submit to appropriate forums and entities my views regarding the outputs
>> > of the CCWG.
>>
>> So, unless the charter is modified, I don't plan to participate in the
>> group.
>>
>> Or do I misunderstand what seems to be clear language in the charter?
>>
>> Thanks and best,
>> Richard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org]On Behalf Of Greg Shatan
>> Sent: mardi, 9. décembre 2014 00:57
>> To: Thomas Rickert
>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Welcome note
>>
>>
>> Mathieu, Thomas and all,
>>
>>
>> I might humbly suggest that we all re-read the CCWG's Charter prior to
>> that discussion, to be found at
>> https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Greg Shatan
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> we would like to suggest we clarify the question of membership and
>> participant status as well as the role of a liaison during tomorrow's call.
>>
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>> Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert
>>
>>
>> Am 08.12.2014 um 23:49 schrieb Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi at gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>>
>> +1 Greg
>> +1 Pamela
>> -1 Arasteh
>>
>>
>> I am a participant by the look of things and its not embarrassing or
>> humiliating.
>> We need to guide against such utterances to build fluidity and respect
>> for the process.
>> We all count as we contribute to the current issue.
>>
>>
>> Any ground rules in the charter that we need to take note to ensure
>> rights and obligations?
>> Moderator(s) should put us through.
>> -AA.
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>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Rec'd with thx.
>> Rudi Daniel
>> ICT consulting & lighting products
>> 784 430 9235
>> On Dec 5, 2014 2:03 PM, "Thomas Rickert" <rickert at anwaelte.de> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>> We would like to welcome you to the Cross Community Working Group on
>> Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability). Now that the charter
>> has been adopted by a number of organizations, namely the At-Large Advisory
>> Committee (ALAC), Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO),
>> Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), we thought it would be timely
>> to commence the planning for the activities of the CCWG-Accountability.
>> Meetings
>> The first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability has been scheduled for
>> Tuesday 9 December at 20:00 UTC  (call details will be circulated shortly).
>> Following that regular online meetings are expected to alternate between
>> 11:00 and 14:00 UTC to allow for maximum participation taking into account
>> the different time zones.
>> Participation
>> In addition to members appointed by the chartering organizations, there
>> are currently 100 individuals subscribed to this mailing list who are
>> participating in this effort as individual participants. Participants are
>> expected to actively contribute in mailing list conversations as well as
>> meetings. It is anticipated that participants will provide essential input
>> to the process. They will participate similar to ICANN chartering
>> organization appointed members.
>> Statements of Interest (SOI)
>> If you have not done so yet, you will be invited to submit a Statement of
>> Interest (SOI) following the online procedures outlined here (
>> https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg) or alternatively provide a statement
>> which at a minimum should include your name, whether you are representing a
>> certain organization or company as part your participation in this effort,
>> areas of specific interest in relation to this effort, material
>> relationship with other parties affected by ICANN and primary country of
>> residence. Please contact Grace Abuhamad (accountability-staff at icann.org)
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>> Mailing List Observers
>> Note that in addition to chartering organization appointed members and
>> individual participants, there will also be the possibility for those
>> interested to sign up to this effort as a mailing list observer. Contrary
>> to members and participants, who are expected to actively participate in
>> mailing list conversations as well as meetings, mailing list observers will
>> have read-only access to the mailing list and will be able to post, do not
>> receive the invites for the various meetings and calls of the CCWG (note
>> that audio streaming will be provided for those interested to follow the
>> CCWG meetings) and do not have to complete a statement of interest. At any
>> point in time, a mailing list observer can join the CCWG as a participant
>> should he or she want to by informing ICANN staff.
>>  As several of you were added to this mailing list as a result of your
>> earlier interest in the Cross Community Group, should you wish to change
>> your status to a mailing list observer or wish to unsubscribe from this
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>> Preparation for the first meeting
>> In order to prepare for the first meeting of the CCWG- Accountability,
>> you are strongly encouraged to review the CCWG charter ahead of the meeting.
>> Note that per our charter one of our first objectives will be to develop
>> a work plan and define the contents of Work Streams 1 and 2 (WS1/WS2). You
>> are encouraged to share any ideas or suggestions you may have to facilitate
>> these tasks with the mailing list.
>> I look forward to working with you.
>> Kind regards,
>> Thomas Rickert (CCWG Co-Chair GNSO)
>>
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