[CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas!

Susan Aaronson saaronson2 at verizon.net
Fri Dec 12 16:58:18 UTC 2014


As do I, and I very much regret any hurt feelings or lack of respect 
send to Mr. Arasteh.  We appreciate his participation.
Susan Ariel Aaronson, Ph.D.
On 12/12/2014 11:48 AM, Olga Cavalli wrote:
> Hi,
> I support the statement made by Thomas Schneider, GAC chair.
> Regards
> Olga Cavalli
>
>
> 2014-12-12 13:00 GMT-03:00 <Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch 
> <mailto:Thomas.Schneider at bakom.admin.ch>>:
>
>     Dear Mr. Buckingham
>
>     Your message below, addressed to Kavouss Arasteh, representative
>     of the Government of Iran, does not meet the standards that we all
>     as members of the ICANN community should treat and talk to each
>     other.
>
>     You may disagree with the points someone makes, you may have the
>     view that somebody is taking up to much time/space on a mailing list.
>
>     This is all fine and it is your right to communicate such views.
>
>     But we all -- as members of the global ICANN community -- should
>     always express ourselves with respect and take care of the words
>     we use.
>
>     We are here working together in a global environment with people
>     coming from very different stakeholder backgrounds and also from
>     very different regions of the world with different cultures and
>     ways of expressing ourselves.
>
>     But what we should all have in common when engaging -- agreeing or
>     disagreeing -- with each other is a minimal standard of decency
>     and manners in the way we talk to each other.
>
>     Thank you for giving this due regard in future communications.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Thomas Schneider
>
>     Chair of the GAC
>
>     P.S.
>
>     if the honourable queen of the united kingdom knew that someone
>     with such a name expresses himself in such a way as you just did,
>     she would probably be "not amused" J
>
>     *Von:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>] *Im
>     Auftrag von *Phil Buckingham
>     *Gesendet:* Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 16:46
>     *An:* 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Malcolm Hutty'
>     *Cc:* 'Accountability Cross Community'
>     *Betreff:* Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas!
>
>     Kavouss,
>
>     I apologise for being so blunt.
>
>     Most of us haven't  got time to read your drivel.
>
>     Please go away, get yourself up to speed, and allow us to focus on
>     the very difficult tasks ahead.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Phil Buckingham
>
>     *From:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On
>     Behalf Of *Kavouss Arasteh
>     *Sent:* 12 December 2014 08:42
>     *To:* Malcolm Hutty
>     *Cc:* Accountability Cross Community
>     *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Sign Up for Work Areas!
>
>     Dear Malcolm,
>
>     Dear Mathew,
>
>     Dear Thomas
>
>     Whether you take my comment as ICG Liaison or as GAC Member or as
>     a participant, the points are still valid.
>
>     I do not wish to dispute about the protocol and formalities which
>     is a time wasting issue.
>
>     Pls kindly take my points and consider them under any sub group
>
>     They are more than valid.
>
>     Kavouss
>
>     2014-12-12 8:28 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net
>     <mailto:malcolm at linx.net>>:
>
>
>
>     On 11/12/2014 20:52, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>     > Dear all,
>     > Collection of existing info should not be limited to those
>     mentioned above
>
>     I agree.
>
>     If a member or participant (*) would like to raise an accountability
>     issue for this CCWG to consider, surely they should be able to do so
>     irrespective of whether it was mentioned in the previous public
>     comment
>     period or not? It may have been mentioned elsewhere, or arise anew.
>
>     Please would the Chairs advise how they would like such issues to be
>     raised (for example, within WG1, within WG2 but not WG1 etc)
>
>     If the Chairs wish to exclude such items and limit the scope of this
>     CCWG's work to matters previously raised (I do not think this is the
>     intention, but let's be sure) then please say so explicitly, so
>     that the
>     group may consider that proposition. If it is intended that new
>     matters
>     can be raised, we need to know how you would prefer that we do so.
>
>     Kind Regards,
>
>     Malcolm.
>
>
>
>
>     (*) Is there a collective noun that we could use that would
>     include both
>     "members" and "participants", without giving offence to either?
>
>
>
>     > All discussions and arguments referred to in UN, ITU, IGF,
>     NetMundial
>     > and other forum must be collected
>     > But these are excising materials   .
>     > What new elements,  new ideas , innovative  approach are on the
>     table
>     > What an bout the review of RFP initially  published  by NTIA?
>     > What about the AoC ?/
>     > What about views expressed by GAC at various meeting with ATRT ?
>     > What about the recent views of the under Secretary of DOC?
>     > Why CCWG only replies on ongoing activities of CWG  limited to
>     naming
>     > There is a need to have a real RFP to public with sufficient
>     deadline
>     > comments not less than one month
>     > Regards
>     > Kavouss
>     >
>     > 2014-12-11 6:18 GMT+01:00 Grace Abuhamad
>     <grace.abuhamad at icann.org <mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>     > <mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org
>     <mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org>>>:
>     >
>     >     Dear all,
>     >
>     >     Here is the current list of volunteers for each of the four work
>     >     areas. Please sign up if you are able and interested.
>     >
>     >     *Work Area 1: Existing Accountability Mechanisms (including
>     ATRT 1 &
>     >     ATRT 2 Recommendations)____*
>     >
>     >     *Coordinators/Rapporteurs*: David Maher / Samantha Eisner____
>     >
>     >     Volunteers: ____
>     >
>     >       * Robin Gross____
>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw____
>     <https://community.icann.org/x/YIMQAw____>
>     >
>     >     Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability1 at icann.org
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>     >     <mailto:ccwg-accountability1 at icann.org
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>     >     Public Archives:
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>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     *Work Area 2: Review Input from Public Comment and
>     Categorize Items
>     >     into Work Streams 1 & 2____*
>     >
>     >     Deliverable: list of items that have been suggested and identify
>     >     whether these belong in WS1, WS2 or both.____
>     >
>     >     *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Steve DelBianco____
>     >
>     >     Volunteers: ____
>     >
>     >       * Jordan Carter____
>     >       * Leon Sanchez____
>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     Wiki Link: https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw____
>     <https://community.icann.org/x/YoMQAw____>
>     >
>     >     Mailing list address: ccwg-accountability2 at icann.org
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>     >     <mailto:ccwg-accountability2 at icann.org
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>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     *Work Area 3: Review Issues Identified by CWG-Stewardship____*
>     >
>     >     *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: TBC____
>     >
>     >     Volunteers: ____
>     >
>     >       * Jordan Carter____
>     >       * Leon Sanchez____
>     >       * Yasuichi Kitamura____
>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     Link: https://community.icann.org/x/ZoMQAw____
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>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
>     >     *Work Area 4: Identify Contingencies (especially in relation to
>     >     WS1)____*
>     >
>     >     *Coordinator/Rapporteur*: Eric Brunner-Williams____
>     >
>     >     Volunteers:  ____
>     >
>     >     __ __
>     >
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