[CCWG-Accountability] Op-Ed from ITIF regarding permanent cross-community group as ultimate authority

Thu Dec 18 07:20:20 UTC 2014

Hi Greg

Theft is theft, be it phishing or fishing. It is theft. It took me a year
to facilitate the House Judiciary moving forward on THEFT and away from
trolling, hacking, et al. Theft is a criminal behaviour. There are too many
cutesy names which do nothing more than gum up crime solving.

Phishing or fishing, ICANN got hacked/stolen from
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2014-12-16-en

I am deep into other papers that are going to keep me, for the most part
monitoring through the end of January.

Dr. I researched quickly- you are a gynecologist.
I spent months since I met Steve and Fadi researching ICANN, its alleged
related charities, and Crocker's private company, and the push to remove
IANA out of America. Unable to dig back into papers due to time crunch.

I am a Content creator, Dr. And I built a crime lab. You have a starting
point to do your own research, the same as I have.

Dr., by the way, we do things a bit different here in DC. We dont mock
people because we dont trust what they say. We take what they say seriously
to do our own vetting. As the head of the Namidian Internet since 1994, I
would expect you will do research and even look towards how the gTLD
auctions are decimating IP in Namibia, as they are elsewere

Sincerely
Carrie Devorah
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> The DomainNewsAfrica article is actually an article from The Daily Caller
> website -- but actually only the first page; apparently they couldn't be
> bothered to cut and paste the second page.  The article engages in some
> speculation about the Swiss idea, but hardly reports that it is ICANN's
> "intention" to move ICANN to Europe.  On the whole, it reports that it is
> not, but points to some statements by Fadi Chehade sufficient to support
> speculation, as well as other statements intended to quell such speculation.
>
> The Yahoo search is even more useless as a citation for this idea.
>
> And, yes, I was aware that ICANN was "spear phished" (not "spearfished").
> FYI, spear phishing is a form of phishing using email spoofing to target an
> organization with the goal of gaining access to confidential data.  Through
> spoofing, the recipient believes they are receiving an email from a trusted
> individual known to the recipient.  The spear phisher will request that the
> recipient take an action that will ultimately result in the phisher gaining
> access to confidential information.
>
> What do you mean when you refer to "DRS"?  I assume you are referring to
> URS (and/or UDRP?) The fact that WIPO acts as an arbitral body for these
> dispute resolution mechanisms proves nothing.
>
> I look forward to a citation to a hearing where someone from ICANN said
> they were moving the organization out of the US and into Switzerland.
>
>
> Greg
>
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> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>>
>> Dear co-Chairs,
>>
>> (through the chair)
>>
>> would you agree with me that someone who uses domainnewsafrica.com and
>> an (unreflected) Yahoo search as sources, does not know what Spearfishing
>> is, considers rented offices in LA and dispute resolution in Europe (ie
>> WIPO) as indication of intention to leave the country, should go to the
>> Principal's office to get a few with the clue stick?
>>
>>
>> greetings, el
>>
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 07:15, Carrie Devorah <carriedev at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here is what I emailed to Greg
>>
>> Research, reading.
>> Attending hearings.
>> Are you not aware the intention is to move ICANN to Europe?
>>
>>
>> http://domainnewsafrica.com/can-icann-be-trusted-if-obama-allows-for-oversight-transition/
>>
>>
>> https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=icann+plans+to+move+Iana+to+switzerland&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
>>
>> Offices in LA are rented.
>> Oversight/DRS is shifted to EU
>>
>> Are you aware ICANN was hacked AGAIN even though testified to Congress
>> never been hacked nor will ever be? Last month it was 'spearfished'
>> whatever the heck that is
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:Where did you ever get such an idea?  "Stated" by whom?
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Alan Greenberg <
>> alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I must have missed those stated plans...  Alan
>>>
>>> At 17/12/2014 11:07 PM, Carrie Devorah wrote:
>>>
>>> Why are you worried about planning for California laws when the stated
>>> plans are if and when Congress lets IANA go the plan is, not to keep
>>> ICANN/IANA in America but to move IANA to Switzerland where it will be
>>> under legal oversight for DRS of WIPO?
>>> Sincerely
>>> Carrie Devorah
>>>
>>> [...]
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Sincerely
CARRIE Devorah
 562 688 2883

DISCLAIMER :
With the continuing crossing and interfacing of platforms both on & off
line both with & without our knowledge nor approval to note nothing sent
over the Internet anymore is ever private nor should be presumed to be so.
If it is that much of a secret, say nothing. If you must? Take a lesson
from our military- hand write the note, chew then swallow
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