[CCWG-Accountability] Op-Ed from ITIF regarding permanent cross-community group as ultimate authority

Thu Dec 18 07:57:07 UTC 2014

Dear Carrie,
Indulge Greg. He loves teaching with an attitude but dislike misinformation.
I believe that he was trying is best to contribute to your investigative
journalism or research by correcting the jargon.
ICANN thrives on jargon's that you need to be careful with.
However, you are missing the story.

A transition is ongoing. Yes.
No discuss was made on shifting the ICANN Headquarters. No.

I believe what you meant by the question of moving ICANN out of America is
the stand that ICANN should not fall to the hands of any Government.
Correct me if am wrong.

Lets start from the above.

-Akinbo

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Carrie Devorah <carriedev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Greg
>
> Theft is theft, be it phishing or fishing. It is theft. It took me a year
> to facilitate the House Judiciary moving forward on THEFT and away from
> trolling, hacking, et al. Theft is a criminal behaviour. There are too many
> cutesy names which do nothing more than gum up crime solving.
>
> Phishing or fishing, ICANN got hacked/stolen from
> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2014-12-16-en
>
>
> I am deep into other papers that are going to keep me, for the most part
> monitoring through the end of January.
>
> Dr. I researched quickly- you are a gynecologist.
> I spent months since I met Steve and Fadi researching ICANN, its alleged
> related charities, and Crocker's private company, and the push to remove
> IANA out of America. Unable to dig back into papers due to time crunch.
>
> I am a Content creator, Dr. And I built a crime lab. You have a starting
> point to do your own research, the same as I have.
>
> Dr., by the way, we do things a bit different here in DC. We dont mock
> people because we dont trust what they say. We take what they say seriously
> to do our own vetting. As the head of the Namidian Internet since 1994, I
> would expect you will do research and even look towards how the gTLD
> auctions are decimating IP in Namibia, as they are elsewere
>
> Sincerely
> Carrie Devorah
> 562 688 2883
>
> Founder
> THE CENTER FOR COPYRIGHTS INTEGRITY
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> Where ARTS, IP, ID, IT and ENFORCEMENT Come Together In One Voice Against
> Online Theft Of Content and Commerce
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>
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> Actively built the 1st discrete site crime analysis lab on a campus in
> North America
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>
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> Capitol Hill and the White House for Almost a Decade
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The DomainNewsAfrica article is actually an article from The Daily Caller
>> website -- but actually only the first page; apparently they couldn't be
>> bothered to cut and paste the second page.  The article engages in some
>> speculation about the Swiss idea, but hardly reports that it is ICANN's
>> "intention" to move ICANN to Europe.  On the whole, it reports that it is
>> not, but points to some statements by Fadi Chehade sufficient to support
>> speculation, as well as other statements intended to quell such speculation.
>>
>> The Yahoo search is even more useless as a citation for this idea.
>>
>> And, yes, I was aware that ICANN was "spear phished" (not
>> "spearfished").  FYI, spear phishing is a form of phishing using email
>> spoofing to target an organization with the goal of gaining access to
>> confidential data.  Through spoofing, the recipient believes they are
>> receiving an email from a trusted individual known to the recipient.  The
>> spear phisher will request that the recipient take an action that will
>> ultimately result in the phisher gaining access to confidential information.
>>
>> What do you mean when you refer to "DRS"?  I assume you are referring to
>> URS (and/or UDRP?) The fact that WIPO acts as an arbitral body for these
>> dispute resolution mechanisms proves nothing.
>>
>> I look forward to a citation to a hearing where someone from ICANN said
>> they were moving the organization out of the US and into Switzerland.
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear co-Chairs,
>>>
>>> (through the chair)
>>>
>>> would you agree with me that someone who uses domainnewsafrica.com and
>>> an (unreflected) Yahoo search as sources, does not know what Spearfishing
>>> is, considers rented offices in LA and dispute resolution in Europe (ie
>>> WIPO) as indication of intention to leave the country, should go to the
>>> Principal's office to get a few with the clue stick?
>>>
>>>
>>> greetings, el
>>>
>>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 07:15, Carrie Devorah <carriedev at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is what I emailed to Greg
>>>
>>> Research, reading.
>>> Attending hearings.
>>> Are you not aware the intention is to move ICANN to Europe?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://domainnewsafrica.com/can-icann-be-trusted-if-obama-allows-for-oversight-transition/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=icann+plans+to+move+Iana+to+switzerland&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
>>>
>>> Offices in LA are rented.
>>> Oversight/DRS is shifted to EU
>>>
>>> Are you aware ICANN was hacked AGAIN even though testified to Congress
>>> never been hacked nor will ever be? Last month it was 'spearfished'
>>> whatever the heck that is
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:Where did you ever get such an idea?  "Stated" by whom?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Alan Greenberg <
>>> alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I must have missed those stated plans...  Alan
>>>>
>>>> At 17/12/2014 11:07 PM, Carrie Devorah wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why are you worried about planning for California laws when the stated
>>>> plans are if and when Congress lets IANA go the plan is, not to keep
>>>> ICANN/IANA in America but to move IANA to Switzerland where it will be
>>>> under legal oversight for DRS of WIPO?
>>>> Sincerely
>>>> Carrie Devorah
>>>>
>>>> [...]
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>
> --
> Sincerely
> CARRIE Devorah
>  562 688 2883
>
>
>
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> With the continuing crossing and interfacing of platforms both on & off
> line both with & without our knowledge nor approval to note nothing sent
> over the Internet anymore is ever private nor should be presumed to be so.
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> from our military- hand write the note, chew then swallow
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