[CCWG-Accountability] Notes & Action Items from CCWG Call on 23 December

Tue Dec 30 17:37:41 UTC 2014

Hi Tijani, 

In response your question about the Adobe Connect recording: I am not sure
why there was a blank. It was likely a technical error. This is one of the
reasons we have two recordings (one from Adobe Connect and one from
Verizon). The Verizon recording (Mp3) is not posted yet, but I will work
with Brenda to get that up as soon as possible. As you know, with ICANN
being closed for the holiday, there are some delays, even though this staff
team is working. 

If you review the transcript
<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/51414843/Meeting3_23Dec.pd
f?version=1&modificationDate=1419421703000&api=v2> , the parts of the call
for WA3 and WA4 are addressed, starting on the bottom of page 45. On last
week's call, neither WA3 and WA4 had developed much content,  but you'll
notice that Avri has added some material to the Wiki for WA3 this week. I
will go through both mailing lists now and post any documents that may have
been missed. Of course, we will also look forward to an update from all
groups later today.

Best, 
Grace

From:  Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
Reply-To:  Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
Date:  Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:53 AM
To:  Tijani Ben Jemaa <tijani.benjemaa at fmai.org.tn>, Grace Abuhamad
<grace.abuhamad at icann.org>, Accountability Cross Community
<accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
Cc:  Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Notes & Action Items from CCWG Call on
23 December

Dear Tijani,

Many thanks for your detailed input.

Your point regarding the formalities to engage with Advisors is well noted.
The intent is only to formalize the process by which the CCWG formally
requests Advice on a certain matter, but by all means Advisors are
Participants to the group and that should not restrict interactions with
them. 

We are trying to engage with Advisors to get their feedback on the topic as
well, and a revised version will be presented for approval when that is
completed. I'll make sure this point is conveyed to them.

Talk to you later I hope,
Mathieu

Le 30/12/2014 15:18, Tijani BEN JEMAA a écrit :
> Dear all,
>  
> First of all, I apologize again for being prevented from attending the last
> call. It was out of my control.
>  
> I received the call output sent by grace and listened to the adobe recording.
> ·        There was a deep silence during the period of report from Avri (WA 3)
> and Eric (WA 4) on the adobe recording. There is nothing related to those 2
> work areas on the wiki.
> 
> o  Why the voice was removed on the adobe recording? Was it intended?
> 
> o  Why WA 3 and 4 didn¹t have material on the wiki as it was for WA 1 and 2?
> 
>  
> I found the rules for engagement with advisors pretty good, except that I find
> the procedure described in Page 3 of the presentation too formal. My
> understanding is that those advisors will integrate the CCWG and attend all
> meetings where everything is recorded. So why we need a so formal procedure
> for asking for advise and why we need a point of contact for clarification,
> etc. It gives me the impression that they will be in a closed office, and we
> deal with them through interfaces.
>  
> Work Area 1: the table is exhaustive; nevertheless, I have the following
> remarks:
> ·        Advisory Mechanism:
> 
> o  SSAC:  How can the ICANN community accountable to SSAC?
> 
> o  RSSAC: same remark: how can the ICANN Community to RSSAC?
> 
> ·        Contractual requirements:
> 
> o  Registry & registrar agreements: I believe that the registries/registrars
> are accountable to ICANN (add ICANN to the column ³to whom²)
> 
> ·        I agree with Bladel that  a column should be added where we indicate
> whether each existing mechanism is worth keeping or not in future?
> 
>  
> Work Area 2: 
> ·        While I am a strong supporter of human rights, I want it to be
> Chrystal clear that any aspect of human right related to the Internet content
> can not apply here because ICANN is not about content at all. All other human
> rights that are not related to content can be included in the public interest
> in my PoV. That¹s why I don¹t agree on replacing ³in the public interest² by
> for protection and advance of human rights and Internet Freedoms².
> 
> ·        The Ombudsman is an internal trusted intermediary and all his work
> should remain internal.
> 
> ·        Why ICANN should remain subject to US Law?
> 
> ·        I don¹t know who is transparency International, and if they are so
> exceptional in auditing, why they don¹t do so for the other ICANN components
> such as the Board?
> 
>  
> Those are few remarks. I would like to thank the Working Areas 1 & 2 leaders
> for the wonderful work they did.
>  
> See you today on the call
>  
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> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
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> 
> De : accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] De la part de Grace
> Abuhamad
> Envoyé : mercredi 24 décembre 2014 12:55
> À : Accountability Cross Community
> Cc : Brenda Brewer
> Objet : [CCWG-Accountability] Notes & Action Items from CCWG Call on 23
> December
>  
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
>  
> 
> The notes, transcripts, and recordings for the CCWG-Accountability (Meeting
> #3) call on 23 December are available on the Wiki here:
> https://community.icann.org/x/O4cQAw <https://community.icann.org/x/O4cQAw> .
> The documents presented are also uploaded on the Wiki but I have reattached
> them here for your convenience.
> 
>  
> 
> Also, here is a summary of the action items:
> * ACTION: contact Grace if you still have not received an account or uploaded
> your SOI
> * ACTION - WA1: DIDP to be added to table per Doria's suggestion
> * ACTION - WA2: Doria to cross check the document and add recommendations from
> ATRT1 and ATRT2
> * ACTION - WA2: Add a column to flag what has been requested by other
> communities and specifically the 3 items that were requested by the CWG.
> * ACTION - WA4: Staff to post comments of EBW and JB to Wiki page
> * ACTION - WA4: All should provide input in contingencies so they can be
> considered.
> * ACTION: Staff to prepare a more detailed timeline
>  
> 
> The next call is on Tuesday 30 December at 19:00 UTC. For a full list of
> upcoming meetings, please see:
> https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Meetings
> <https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Meetings>
> 
>  
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Grace
> 
> 
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