[CCWG-ACCT] GAO meeting request

Adebunmi AKINBO akinbo at nira.org.ng
Wed Apr 1 22:33:39 UTC 2015

Dear All,
While pondering on the submission of Dr. Lisse and Meijer, i advice that:

1. You inform that recording and transcribing can give a feel of any grey
areas that the co-chairs may not be able to fill considering that they are
responding in their personal opinion and assessment of the feel of the
CCWG, feedback to the community for a continuous process would benefit and
educate them;

2. That the feedback of the supposed meeting could be sent to them with a
general response to ensure clarity of opinions and discussions.
=I hope this does not expose any loose end for them to cry foul considering
the politics that may be involved (if any).


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl> wrote:

>   Dear Mathieu, all,
>  Excellent approach, I would like to make two suggestions:
>    1. I (personally) would not like you to speak with GAO in your
>    personal capacities, but formally, as co-chairs of the CCWG. You just have
>    to put across that you are not (re-)presenting all the diverse opinions
>    within the CCWG not giving the CCWG’s consensus opinion, but that does not
>    have to mean you speak in a personal capacity
>    2. To make sure that of those things you discussed, the really
>    important ones cannot get lost or be misunderstood, put them in an email
>    that you send to GAO afterwards (and cc it to this list)
>  Best,
>  Roelof
>   From: Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
> Reply-To: Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
> Date: dinsdag 31 maart 2015 17:58
> To: "accountability-cross-community at icann.org" <
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] GAO meeting request
>  Dear Colleagues,
> Many thanks for the thoughtful contributions on this thread. We have taken
> good note of the concerns as well as the recommendations. Since we did not
> have enough time to address this particular topic on our call today, this
> email summarizes our current thoughts and steps forward.
> First of all, we can confirm that the request from the GAO is directed to
> the co-chairs of the CCWG. We would certainly make clear that we are
> speaking in our personal capacities and not in the name of the CCWG.
> Secondly, as was mentioned on the list, the GAO is currently engaging with
> a wide range of stakeholders, including members of this group. The list of
> questions provided is a generic one, and it is our understanding that, as
> far as we are concerned, the main expectation is to discuss about our
> process. Our key intent in this engagement will be focused on explaining
> our process, from the basic principles of the multistakeholder, open and
> transparent approach of the CCWG to the various steps we are taking to come
> up with WS1 proposals. Should the discussion come to contents, we will
> obviously stay within the grounds of tentative conclusions, as currently
> available to the public through, for instance, our co-chair statement.
> Taking note of some of the comments received, we will ask the GAO whether
> they would rather hear our update shortly or delay by a few weeks until our
> public comment is out.
> Finally, I want to make clear that, while taking note of the objection
> from Eberhard, the co-chairs decision to engage with the GAO does not fall
> within the remit of the "CCWG decision making rules" (including consensus,
> 2nd reading etc). Our commitment as co-chairs is to be as transparent about
> our engagements as possible, and we are perfectly ok to be held accountable
> (and transparent) for what we may say. I think Matthew referred to care and
> thoughtfulness as guiding principles.
> Of course, should there be any request for written input after this
> teleconference, it would obviously be subject to review by the whole CCWG.
> We hope these clarifications are useful and remain open to your inputs and
> advice.
> Best regards,
> Mathieu, Leon and Thomas
> Le 30/03/2015 12:11, Mathieu Weill a écrit :
> Dear Colleagues,
> For your information, the US Governement Accountability Office has
> requested a teleconference with the co-chairs of the CCWG. Tentative date
> is currently discussed for next week (7 or 8 April).
> Your inputs are welcome.
> Best regards,
> Thomas Rickert, Leon Felipe Sanchez, Mathieu Weill
> -------- Message transféré --------  Sujet : April 1, 2, or 3 Meeting
> Request CCWG-Accountability Chairs  Date : Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:45:11 +0000  De :
> Healey, John C <HealeyJ at GAO.GOV> <HealeyJ at GAO.GOV>  Pour : '
> rickert at anwaelte.de' <rickert at anwaelte.de> <rickert at anwaelte.de>, '
> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr' <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr> <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>,
> 'leonfelipe at sanchez.mx' <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx> <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
>  Good day, Mr. Rickert, Mr. Sanchez Ambia, and Mr. Weill:
> You may recall meeting my colleagues, Derrick Collins, Alwynne Wilbur, and
> Kate Perl at the ICANN meeting in Singapore in February.
> At any rate, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has been asked by
> the Chairs of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and its
> Communications and Technology Subcommittee to review the National
> Telecommunications and Information Administration’s (NTIA) proposed
> transition of  key Internet domain name functions to the global
> multistakeholder community. We are meeting with knowledgeable people and
> organizations to gather information for our work.
> We would like to meet with you via teleconference to discuss the proposed
> transition from the perspective of the Accountability working group. We
> have provided a list of questions, below, to give you a better idea of the
> topics we want to discuss with you, and I’ll provide a teleconference line
> after confirming your availability (please “reply all” so that others can
> know of your availability). In addition to the discussion, we would also
> welcome written responses.
> Would you be available for a one-hour time slot during one of the
> following blocks?
>    - Wednesday, April 1st: 10:00 – 11:00 EST
>    - Thursday, April 2nd: 11:00 – 12:00 EST
>    - Friday, April 3rd: 10:00 – 11:00 EST
>  We would also like to meet with Steve DelBianco and Cheryl Langdon-Orr
> to discuss their work with the Stress Test Work Party. Please let me know
> if you’d like to be part of that meeting, too.
> Thank you,
> John
> John Healey, Senior Analyst
> Physical Infrastructure Team
> U.S. Government Accountability Office
> 441 G Street NW, Washington DC, 20548
> (202) 512-5006   |   HealeyJ at gao.gov
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