[CCWG-ACCT] GAO meeting request

Adam Peake adam.peake at icann.org
Mon Apr 20 13:45:27 UTC 2015

Hi Thomas,

you reported on the GAO call on the CCWG call of April 8.  Eberhard, you
sent apologies for that call.


Transcript attached, relevant text copied below.



Thomas Rickert:

Yes that is correct, and that is just to update the group briefly on a call
that we had with the GAO earlier today - we meaning Mathieu and myself. And
there was a list of questions that we went through, and this list of
questions has been shared with this group earlier.

I would like to note that we have prefaced our discussion mentioning that we
cannot speak on behalf of the CCWG but that we¹re making comments in
personal capacity as co-chairs trying to reflect accurately the current
status of our deliberations but that what we¹re doing is an iterative
process and that therefore the group¹s recommendations as we currently frame
them or captured them might be subject to change.

So in terms of substance we more or less stick to what we have put or what
is publicly available in documents that have been produced. For example the
co- chair statement which captured the interim result of our work and the
progress made so far.

I would also like to highlight that we¹ve asked what the exact procedure
would be in using results of or the answers that we provided. And we were
informed that this set of questions has been asked to a variety of
stakeholders and/or community members and that the GAO will put together a
report that will be shared with us so that we have the opportunity to review
whether what we have been quoted with is an accurate reflection of what we
actually said or intended to say.

So if we receive this draft and if there¹s something in there which is not
exactly covered by publicly available materials, then we will share that
with the whole CCWG. And that is to say that without our permission or
without us having the opportunity to review the report, no report will be

But once this approval is given, there will be a report that will be shared
publicly and that everybody can look into.

So we¹ve offered to provide more information as we move on. We¹ve also said
that we¹re working an iterative session so that our findings might change as
we move on. But it was interesting to see that the GAO was very much aware
of where we are so they did know the documents that we are discussing and
even made reference to current document versions that we¹re working on.

So I think that they are pretty aware of where we are and what we¹re doing
and that they accurately reflect that in their report. I think I should
leave it there. We owed you a response to this because there was been some
discussion on this request for a telephone call earlier. And this is just to
briefly let you know what the discussion was about. And back over to you


From:  Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de>
Date:  Monday, April 20, 2015 at 9:38 AM
To:  Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na>
Cc:  "directors at omadhina.net" <directors at omadhina.net>, CCWG Accountability
<accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [CCWG-ACCT] GAO meeting request

Dear Eberhard,
yes, the call has taken place and we have reported to the CCWG during one of
our previous calls. Maybe staff can help and point you to the relevant part
of the transcript. Should any mentioning of the Mathieu and my input be
made, we will get that report for approval and will share it with the CCWG.


rickert.net <http://rickert.net>

Am 18.04.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na>:

> Dear Co-Chairs,
> has the below teleconference taken place?
> And if so, can you please let me have the transcript?
> greetings, el
> -- 
> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
> On Mar 30, 2015, at 12:11, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr> wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> For your information, the US Governement Accountability Office has requested
>> a teleconference with the co-chairs of the CCWG. Tentative date is currently
>> discussed for next week (7 or 8 April).
>> Your inputs are welcome.
>> Best regards,
>> Thomas Rickert, Leon Felipe Sanchez, Mathieu Weill
>> -------- Message transféré --------
>> Sujet : April 1, 2, or 3 Meeting Request CCWG-Accountability Chairs
>> Date : Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:45:11 +0000
>> De : Healey, John C <HealeyJ at GAO.GOV> <mailto:HealeyJ at GAO.GOV>
>> Pour : 'rickert at anwaelte.de' <rickert at anwaelte.de>
>> <mailto:rickert at anwaelte.de> , 'mathieu.weill at afnic.fr'
>> <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr> ,
>> 'leonfelipe at sanchez.mx' <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
>> <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
>> Good day, Mr. Rickert, Mr. Sanchez Ambia, and Mr. Weill:
>> You may recall meeting my colleagues, Derrick Collins, Alwynne Wilbur, and
>> Kate Perl at the ICANN meeting in Singapore in February.
>> At any rate, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has been asked by the
>> Chairs of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and its Communications
>> and Technology Subcommittee to review the National Telecommunications and
>> Information Administration¹s (NTIA) proposed transition of  key Internet
>> domain name functions to the global multistakeholder community. We are
>> meeting with knowledgeable people and organizations to gather information for
>> our work.
>> We would like to meet with you via teleconference to discuss the proposed
>> transition from the perspective of the Accountability working group. We have
>> provided a list of questions, below, to give you a better idea of the topics
>> we want to discuss with you, and I¹ll provide a teleconference line after
>> confirming your availability (please ³reply all² so that others can know of
>> your availability). In addition to the discussion, we would also welcome
>> written responses.
>> Would you be available for a one-hour time slot during one of the following
>> blocks?
>> * Wednesday, April 1st: 10:00 ­ 11:00 EST
>> * Thursday, April 2nd: 11:00 ­ 12:00 EST
>> * Friday, April 3rd: 10:00 ­ 11:00 EST
>> We would also like to meet with Steve DelBianco and Cheryl Langdon-Orr to
>> discuss their work with the Stress Test Work Party. Please let me know if
>> you¹d like to be part of that meeting, too.
>> Thank you,
>> John
>> John Healey, Senior Analyst
>> Physical Infrastructure Team
>> U.S. Government Accountability Office
>> 441 G Street NW, Washington DC, 20548
>> (202) 512-5006   |   HealeyJ at gao.gov
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