[CCWG-ACCT] Board plans for considering the 3rd draft report

[farzaneh badii]

I am dreaming of the day these calls would be open to observers. Then we
wouldn't speculate , speculate speculate ....

On 2 December 2015 at 23:14, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am fairly certain these are merely calls for the Board to get any needed
> information about our proposal and to discuss it among themselves, and to
> provide the opportunity and platform for the Board to prepare its input to
> the CCWG.  I'll be quite surprised if they are something different.
>
> Greg
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:
>
>> Wise words. I trust they will be taken into account.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2 Dec 2015, at 19:06, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Bruce,
>>
>> As you know there are two webinars organized by CCWG.
>>
>> I understand that ICANN wishes to have its own calls or webinars on the
>> same subject.
>>
>> I do not really understand the objectives of these ICANN calls / webinars
>>
>> Is a competition with CCWG webinars being organized?
>>
>> Does it have different objectives than those aimed at CCWG two webinars?
>>
>> Does the Board have a new issue to raise which have not already been
>> raised? thus creating an environment of distrusts between the two entities
>> I draw your attention that the public are the same .
>>
>> Perhaps ICANN presenters want to say different things that they already
>> said by Thomas today.
>>
>> Perhaps ICANN Board wishes to have a surprise for the community?
>>
>> In my humble  view , as an active participant at CCWG ,Thomas Ricker and
>> other CCWG Team Teasers  introductory remarks which lasts about 30 mints
>> were quite valid, constructive, clear, positive and explanatory.
>>
>> It would be confusing and misleading if ICANN say something different.
>>
>> We need to work together and minimize the overlapping presentations, in
>> particular seriously avoid disputing directly or indirectly what CCWG did
>> say or prepared .
>>
>> I am still confused by the objectives and purposes of these calls
>>
>> I seriously warn ICANN Board or whoever presenting the calls to avoid
>> creating conflicts between CCWG and ICANN.
>>
>> While ICANN is independent from CCWG and free to say whatever, it deems
>> necessary to say, however, any contrary views  or contradictory opinion
>> or any new issues which has never been raised to CCWG ,apart from
>> understanding of ICANN on how the CCWG  recommendations will be applied,
>> are totally counterproductive , and could mislead the community.
>>
>> The Board has been actively participated in every and all  steps of the
>> works  as contained in the third CCWG proposal and thus expected to
>> enforce the hard works  which have been carried out during the last 12/ 13
>> months
>>
>> I have always supported the Board and its legitimate rights and valuable
>> contributions so far given. However, at this late stage of the process , it
>> would be , counterproductive, misleading ,confusing and perhaps dangerous,
>> if new idea or new elements not previously raised  be presented at these
>> call or if the presentations cast doubt on the value, workability,
>> effectiveness, and legality of the third  CCWG proposals .
>>
>> I knew some Board, s member and their attitudes and standards when
>> attending CCWG as participants and their views  when talking as the
>> Board Members
>>
>> We have taken all issues raised by the Board and expect productive,
>> positive, constructive views rather than any dividing views.
>>
>> I hope that the distinguished Board Members will take this advice into
>> account  and contribute toward  galvanizing and promoting the consensus
>> already emerged
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Kavouss
>>
>> 2015-12-02 16:52 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>:
>>
>>> Thank you very much Bruce,
>>>
>>> In addition to this message, I want to mention that the co chairs have
>>> been invited to brief the Board during the first 30-40 minutes of the
>>> call
>>> on Friday 4 Dec.
>>>
>>> As part of the outreach effort on our Report, we have accepted the invite
>>> and will obviously rely on the Draft Report and webinar material.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Mathieu
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] De la part de
>>> Bruce Tonkin
>>> Envoyé : mercredi 2 décembre 2015 08:59
>>> À : accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>> Objet : [CCWG-ACCT] Board plans for considering the 3rd draft report
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> For information, the Board is planning two information calls to discuss
>>> the CCWG-Accountability Draft Proposal on Work Stream 1 Recommendations
>>> released on 30 Nov.
>>>
>>> The first of these calls with be on Friday 4 Dec at 21:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> The second call will be next week on Thursday 10 Dec.
>>>
>>> We are expecting to get comments to the CCWG before the close of the
>>> public comment period.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bruce Tonkin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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