[CCWG-ACCT] Board plans for considering the 3rd draft report

Fri Dec 4 11:32:37 UTC 2015

Thank you Thomas . This is very helpful.

On 4 December 2015 at 12:18, Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de> wrote:

> All,
> please note that our discussion with the Board will be recorded and
> transcribed. We will make available a link to the documentation.
>
> Please also note that we have offered on multiple occasions our
> willingness to discuss with any group that wishes to discuss with us. The
> Board has taken up that offer and we would be delighted to discuss with
> your respective groups, too, should you find this helpful.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
>
>
> Am 02.12.2015 um 23:23 schrieb farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>
> I am dreaming of the day these calls would be open to observers. Then we
> wouldn't speculate , speculate speculate ....
>
> On 2 December 2015 at 23:14, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am fairly certain these are merely calls for the Board to get any
>> needed information about our proposal and to discuss it among themselves,
>> and to provide the opportunity and platform for the Board to prepare its
>> input to the CCWG.  I'll be quite surprised if they are something different.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Wise words. I trust they will be taken into account.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 2 Dec 2015, at 19:06, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Bruce,
>>> As you know there are two webinars organized by CCWG.
>>> I understand that ICANN wishes to have its own calls or webinars on the
>>> same subject.
>>> I do not really understand the objectives of these ICANN calls / webinars
>>> Is a competition with CCWG webinars being organized?
>>> Does it have different objectives than those aimed at CCWG two webinars?
>>> Does the Board have a new issue to raise which have not already been
>>> raised? thus creating an environment of distrusts between the two entities
>>> I draw your attention that the public are the same .
>>> Perhaps ICANN presenters want to say different things that they already
>>> said by Thomas today.
>>> Perhaps ICANN Board wishes to have a surprise for the community?
>>> In my humble  view , as an active participant at CCWG ,Thomas Ricker
>>> and other CCWG Team Teasers  introductory remarks which lasts about 30
>>> mints were quite valid, constructive, clear, positive and explanatory.
>>> It would be confusing and misleading if ICANN say something different.
>>> We need to work together and minimize the overlapping presentations, in
>>> particular seriously avoid disputing directly or indirectly what CCWG did
>>> say or prepared .
>>> I am still confused by the objectives and purposes of these calls
>>> I seriously warn ICANN Board or whoever presenting the calls to avoid
>>> creating conflicts between CCWG and ICANN.
>>> While ICANN is independent from CCWG and free to say whatever, it deems
>>> necessary to say, however, any contrary views  or contradictory opinion
>>> or any new issues which has never been raised to CCWG ,apart from
>>> understanding of ICANN on how the CCWG  recommendations will be
>>> applied, are totally counterproductive , and could mislead the community.
>>> The Board has been actively participated in every and all  steps of the
>>> works  as contained in the third CCWG proposal and thus expected to
>>> enforce the hard works  which have been carried out during the last 12/ 13
>>> months
>>> I have always supported the Board and its legitimate rights and valuable
>>> contributions so far given. However, at this late stage of the process , it
>>> would be , counterproductive, misleading ,confusing and perhaps dangerous,
>>> if new idea or new elements not previously raised  be presented at these
>>> call or if the presentations cast doubt on the value, workability,
>>> effectiveness, and legality of the third  CCWG proposals .
>>> I knew some Board, s member and their attitudes and standards when
>>> attending CCWG as participants and their views  when talking as the
>>> Board Members
>>> We have taken all issues raised by the Board and expect productive,
>>> positive, constructive views rather than any dividing views.
>>> I hope that the distinguished Board Members will take this advice into
>>> account  and contribute toward  galvanizing and promoting the consensus
>>> already emerged
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Kavouss
>>>
>>> 2015-12-02 16:52 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>:
>>>
>>>> Thank you very much Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> In addition to this message, I want to mention that the co chairs have
>>>> been invited to brief the Board during the first 30-40 minutes of the
>>>> call
>>>> on Friday 4 Dec.
>>>>
>>>> As part of the outreach effort on our Report, we have accepted the
>>>> invite
>>>> and will obviously rely on the Draft Report and webinar material.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Mathieu
>>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] De la part de
>>>> Bruce Tonkin
>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 2 décembre 2015 08:59
>>>> À : accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>>> Objet : [CCWG-ACCT] Board plans for considering the 3rd draft report
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> For information, the Board is planning two information calls to discuss
>>>> the CCWG-Accountability Draft Proposal on Work Stream 1 Recommendations
>>>> released on 30 Nov.
>>>>
>>>> The first of these calls with be on Friday 4 Dec at 21:00 UTC.
>>>>
>>>> The second call will be next week on Thursday 10 Dec.
>>>>
>>>> We are expecting to get comments to the CCWG before the close of the
>>>> public comment period.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bruce Tonkin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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