[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - ACCT - Recommendation 4 - Community Powers

Tue Dec 15 05:48:38 UTC 2015

There are two questions here, and they should be viewed separately.

One question is how likely it is that a non-frivolous suit could be brought
by a Board member being recalled.  I think the chances of that are actually
quite small, and that this threat is being massively overblown, but that is
the wrong point to spend time on.

The other question is how easy it would be to eliminate this threat,
regardless of how unlikely or far-fetched it really is.  I think the answer
to that is that it would be quite easy to do, through use of a "pre-service
letter" or other binding agreement preventing Board members from filing
suit arising from their recall.  This is where we should concentrate our
efforts.

If we want to take time to debate whether or not the scenarios involving
litigation by a recalled Board member are realistic or credible, I'll wade
into that debate.  But we have very little time and much more significant
issues to spend our time on.  In the end it doesn't matter, if the threat
can be eliminated easily.

Greg

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I made an inquiry of one of the Board members -- ICANN does not currently
> use Director Service letters.
>
> Greg
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> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>
> wrote:
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>> Thanks Holly and Rosemary.  We are still trying to locate a Director
>> Service letter – even just to determine whether they ever agree that CA law
>> governs when they sign on.
>>
>> Anne
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>> *From:* Gregory, Holly [mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 5:42 PM
>> *To:* Rosemary E. Fei; Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Steve DelBianco'
>>
>> *Cc:* gregshatanipc at gmail.com; 'Phil Corwin'; cwilson at 21cf.com; Thomas
>> Rickert; ipc_accountabilityct at icann.org; 'Gomes, Chuck' (
>> cgomes at verisign.com); Sidley ICANN CCWG; ICANN-Adler;
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Subject:* RE: CCWG - ACCT - Recommendation 4 - Community Powers
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>> Agreed
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>> *From:* Rosemary E. Fei
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 06:41:09 PM
>> *To:* Aikman-Scalese, Anne; Gregory, Holly; 'Steve DelBianco'
>> *Cc:* gregshatanipc at gmail.com; 'Phil Corwin'; cwilson at 21cf.com; Thomas
>> Rickert; ipc_accountabilityct at icann.org; 'Gomes, Chuck' (
>> cgomes at verisign.com); Sidley ICANN CCWG; ICANN-Adler;
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Subject:* RE: CCWG - ACCT - Recommendation 4 - Community Powers
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>> Questions 1 and 2 might be re-directed at whether a director can be
>> enforceably bound to an agreement not to bring such suits or seek such
>> relief, such as in a pre-service letter, rather than (or in addition to)
>> researching whether such suits and relief are possible.  To Anne’s point,
>> claims without any legal basis can still be made in court, so perhaps the
>> focus should be on how quickly and easily they will be dismissed.  An
>> enforceable agreement would go a long way in that direction, which would be
>> reassuring for SO/AC actors, but also a strong disincentive for directors
>> being removed to bring a claim at all.
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>> The last question could be directed to ICANN’s insurance carrier, or
>> other carriers who may offer such coverage, rather than legal counsel.  We
>> can do the research if directed, but I don’t think our legal expertise is
>> needed to be able to do that work.
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>> Rosemary
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>> *From:* Aikman-Scalese, Anne [mailto:AAikman at lrrlaw.com
>> <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 12:29 PM
>> *To:* Holly Gregory; 'Steve DelBianco'
>> *Cc:* gregshatanipc at gmail.com; 'Phil Corwin'; cwilson at 21cf.com; Rosemary
>> E. Fei; Thomas Rickert; ipc_accountabilityct at icann.org; 'Gomes, Chuck' (
>> cgomes at verisign.com); Rosemary E. Fei; Sidley ICANN CCWG; ICANN-Adler;
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Subject:* RE: CCWG - ACCT - Recommendation 4 - Community Powers
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>> If the Chairs  want to certify the legal questions, I think these would
>> be:
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>> 1.      Is it possible for a Director to bring suit for libel, slander,
>>  or other causes of action during the community enforcement removal process
>> or thereafter based on the “written justification” laid out by the SO/AC
>> and/or oral statements made during the required conference calls in the
>> Community  enforcement process?
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>> 2.      Could a Director seek injunctive and/or declaratory relief to
>> interrupt the community enforcement process toward removal?  If so, would
>> SOs/ACs and officers who are sued be required to mount their own defense?
>> How expensive would this be?
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>> 3.      Is there insurance coverage available for SOs/ACs and their
>> officers in relation to possible suit by a director in jeopardy of being
>> removed or who has been removed from the Board?  If so, how expensive is it?
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>> These are not questions about how likely the action  is to occur.   That
>> does not really figure into the “chilling effect” that is of concern when
>> the officer of an SO or AC is drafting the “written justification”  and/or
>>  encouraging open discussion in the required (and recorded for posterity)
>> conference call.
>>
>> Anne
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>> *Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel*
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>> *From:* Gregory, Holly [mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com
>> <holly.gregory at sidley.com>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 1:14 PM
>> *To:* Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Steve DelBianco'
>> *Cc:* gregshatanipc at gmail.com; 'Phil Corwin'; cwilson at 21cf.com; Rosemary
>> Fei (rfei at adlercolvin.com); Thomas Rickert;
>> ipc_accountabilityct at icann.org; 'Gomes, Chuck' (cgomes at verisign.com);
>> Rosemary Fei (rfei at adlercolvin.com); Sidley ICANN CCWG;
>> ICANN at adlercolvin.com
>> *Subject:* RE: CCWG - ACCT - Recommendation 4 - Community Powers
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>> We must await further direction from the co-chairs whether this is
>> something that they would like research on under California law
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>> *HOLLY* *GREGORY*
>> Partner
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>> *Sidley Austin LLP*
>> +1 212 839 5853
>> holly.gregory at sidley.com
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>> *From:* Aikman-Scalese, Anne [mailto:AAikman at lrrlaw.com
>> <AAikman at lrrlaw.com>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 3:03 PM
>> *To:* Gregory, Holly; 'Steve DelBianco'
>> *Cc:* gregshatanipc at gmail.com; 'Phil Corwin'; cwilson at 21cf.com; Rosemary
>> Fei (rfei at adlercolvin.com); Thomas Rickert;
>> ipc_accountabilityct at icann.org; 'Gomes, Chuck' (cgomes at verisign.com)
>> *Subject:* RE: CCWG - ACCT - Recommendation 4 - Community Powers
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>> Holly – I would tend to agree if in fact the SO or AC could remove a
>> director without cause and did not have to state its reasons, but the
>> community process requires this and it is discussed fully throughout four
>> steps of the Community process to director removal.   The SO or AC must
>> state “written justification”, to which the Board has now added its  “Clear
>> Rationale” comment.
>>
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>> One need only look at the differences of opinion that arose with respect
>> to .africa to understand that a stated reason for removal which has a
>> “written justification” or Clear Rationale from the SO/AC standpoint could
>> easily form the basis of a suit by a director.  It does not require much by
>> way of theory for a plaintiff’s lawyer to allege claims of libel and even
>>  irreparable harm.  *The SO/AC would likely need legal advice just to
>> draft the “written justification.”*
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>> Again, I do not think indemnification represents a reasonable risk to
>> ICANN as a corporation. The risk should be limited by contract when
>> directors take office.  Directors should not be suing the SO/AC and/or its
>> officers for removal. Otherwise, the ultimate enforcement mechanism in the
>> Sole Designator Model  is not effective.
>>
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>> You may not have seen this fact situation occur.  That does not mean it
>> would not occur at ICANN.  We have some fairly feisty folks in our
>> midst.    The risk of suit is of course much higher than the risk of
>> success on the merits.   I would say it is hard to measure in dollars the
>> potential damage to an individual associated with being removed from the
>> ICANN Board with “written justification”.     It could be a pretty good
>> strategy for a director who wants to interrupt the Community Enforcement
>> process.  He or she may also have the full support of other Directors
>> willing to testify.
>>
>> Anne
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>> *Anne E. Aikman-Scalese, Of Counsel*
>>
>> *Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP*
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>> *From:* Gregory, Holly [mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com
>> <holly.gregory at sidley.com>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 12:43 PM
>> *To:* Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Steve DelBianco'
>> *Cc:* gregshatanipc at gmail.com; 'Phil Corwin'; cwilson at 21cf.com; Rosemary
>> Fei (rfei at adlercolvin.com); Thomas Rickert
>> *Subject:* RE: CCWG - ACCT - Recommendation 4 - Community Powers
>>
>>
>>
>> Anne, My sense is that the concerns you raise present an extremely low
>> risk of suit  – and hence low risk of indemnification and cost of
>> indemnification.  In my many years of corporate governance practice I
>> cannot recall a lawsuit for libel or defamation by a director in an
>> instance of removal.  But we can research under California law if the
>> co-chairs certify.  Also, I am not aware of any theory of libel or
>> defamation that would give rise to injunctive relief delaying such removal
>> where the designator has the right to remove with or without cause as here.
>> Again, we have not researched this specific point under California law but
>> will do so if certified. Holly
>>
>>
>>
>> *HOLLY* *GREGORY*
>> Partner
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>> *Sidley Austin LLP*
>> +1 212 839 5853
>> holly.gregory at sidley.com
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