[CCWG-ACCT] Work plan in January/Meeting schedule

[Kavouss Arasteh]

Dear All,
Doctor Lisse suggestion seems quite reasonable and practical to hold a f2f meeting of one or two days in Europe rather than 8 •3 hours of talk .
Such f2f must be well Plan.
Kavouss

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> On 25 Dec 2015, at 10:10, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
> 
> I would prefer we take the time needed to come up with a fully baked proposal.
> 
> el
> 
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>> On 25 Dec 2015, at 10:38, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> hi Eberhard,
>> 
>> So: to cut through -- would you prefer a face to face gathering of the CCWG rather than a set of calls over the few weeks of January?
>> 
>> Or would you propose some other approach?
>> 
>> If we all propose a different approach where we hear one we don't like, we'll all have more ideas on the table to decide between.
>> 
>> Merry Christmas...
>> 
>> Jordan
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 December 2015 at 08:35, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>>> And I totally disagree.
>>> 
>>> Though, Jordan could be right if any of this was necessary and not needlessly forced on us by the Co-Chair(s) to get SOMETHING done no matter the outcome.
>>> 
>>> "Some intensity" doesn't do this farce justice, by the way, but if we really needed to do this then a weekend F2F with sufficient notice would be able to achieve more with less disruption.
>>> 
>>> But then again, that would be inclusive/participatory and we can't have something like that derail the agenda, now can we?
>>> 
>>> Or even having the plenum make decisions... The fewer the better, and especially not substantiative, "sensing the mood of the group" of course only about issues that fit into the plan.
>>> 
>>> If the idea really was to talk to each other we should talk to each other.
>>> 
>>> el
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> On 25 Dec 2015, at 09:44, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > I completely agree with Jordan.
>>> >
>>> > Given we have something to deliver, I expected to give more time than usual for CCWG in January.
>>> > I see the additional calls suggested as a pragmatic way to help us make good progress.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Izumi
>>> >
>>> >> On 2015/12/25 14:51, Jordan Carter wrote:
>>> >> Thanks Brenda
>>> >>
>>> >> All, while I understand that there is some intensity here, it is less of a
>>> >> time commitment than travelling to and participating in a two day face to
>>> >> face meeting. I much prefer the calls to another such in-person gathering.
>>> >>
>>> >> It should become clear in the early calls what the mood of the group is in
>>> >> respect of further changes to the proposal in response to the comments from
>>> >> SOs/ACs and the public. The fewer changes, I guess, the less time....?
>>> >>
>>> >> Regardless, we do have to take the time to come to as much consensus as we
>>> >> can within the group about finalising the report. It won't happen without
>>> >> us spending time talking with eachother!
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers
>>> >> Jordan
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