[CCWG-ACCT] Boating in January. Was: Work plan in January

[Roelof Meijer]

Chris, Nigel,

Let me get this clear: you guys can¹t participate in the calls in January
because you¹re both on a boat trip?

And Nigel wants to abandon the boat because Chris is in too? I can
understand that, but would have expected it to be the other way around
(not meaning the boat abandoning Nigel)

Cheers,

Roelof




On 30-12-15 13:03, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on
behalf of Nigel Roberts" <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
on behalf of nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:

>I'm very personally in the same boat.
>
>I have attempted to add some value to the process, but in view of the
>nature (probably by design) of the proposed work-plan, I'm on the point
>of abandoning all but the most superficial of participation.
>
>I'm sure others are in this boat with me ...
>
>On 30/12/15 11:28, Chris Disspain wrote:
>> Hi Mathieu,
>>
>> Thanks for this. Do you have a proposed topic agenda yet. I won¹t be
>> able to make all the calls (and I expect others will be in the same
>> boat) so it would helpful to have an overarching agenda for the calls as
>> soon as possible. Apologies if this has been sent already and I have
>> missed it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 20:50 , Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>>> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Kavouss, Dear Paul, All,
>>>
>>> Some of you have raised concerns about the work plan and the decision
>>>to
>>> schedule two calls a week, announced in my 24th December email.
>>>
>>> Participants to our meeting #73 will remember that this issue was
>>> discussed during that call
>>> (https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56986612).
>>>Key
>>> take away was the need for plenary discussions rather than multiplying
>>> subgroups.
>>>
>>> While we certainly recognize the different views expressed about the
>>> timeline for delivering our final report, we are also trying to
>>>organize
>>> our calls in a manner that enables inclusive and informed debate about
>>>the
>>> comments received. 24 hours of calls in January "only" represent two
>>>hours
>>> of discussions per recommendation (leaving aside other types of issues
>>> that we dedicate time on during our calls). Two hours to fully
>>>understand
>>> concerns and find a way forward that is acceptable to all.
>>>
>>> We hope that, by using a topic based agenda and providing a thorough
>>> analysis of the comments received ahead of the call, we can make the
>>>best
>>> use of everyone's time during these calls, so that they can remain
>>>driven
>>> by the willingness to understand each of the concerns in good faith and
>>> find common ground, as we have demonstrated in the past that our group
>>>can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> If needed and desired within the group, we might have to rely on
>>>intensive
>>> days (possibly on a week end) as some of you suggested, but we are
>>>aware
>>> of the challenges of such an approach and would like to avoid that as
>>>much
>>> as possible.
>>>
>>> As a follow up to the discussion that took place during our meeting
>>>#73,
>>> we will put these proposals for discussion during our next meeting, on
>>> January 5th, and look forward to your further contributions and
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Leon, Thomas & Mathieu
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