[CCWG-ACCT] Boating in January. Was: Work plan in January

Mark Carvell mark.carvell at culture.gov.uk
Thu Dec 31 09:28:23 UTC 2015


Dear Chris and Nigel

A boat is useful when inundated (check the BBC news).

With best wishes to all for a happy, healthy, prosperous and successful New
Year.

Mark

Mark Carvell
Global Internet Governance Policy
Department for Culture, Media and Sport
mark.carvell at culture.gov.uk
tel +44 (0) 20 7211 6062

On 30 December 2015 at 22:30, Chris Disspain <ceo at auda.org.au> wrote:

> If Nigel is in the same boat as me then he has clearly stowed away. 😀
>
> Cheers,
>
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> > On 31 Dec 2015, at 00:44, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl> wrote:
> >
> > Chris, Nigel,
> >
> > Let me get this clear: you guys can¹t participate in the calls in January
> > because you¹re both on a boat trip?
> >
> > And Nigel wants to abandon the boat because Chris is in too? I can
> > understand that, but would have expected it to be the other way around
> > (not meaning the boat abandoning Nigel)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Roelof
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30-12-15 13:03, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on
> > behalf of Nigel Roberts" <
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
> > on behalf of nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm very personally in the same boat.
> >>
> >> I have attempted to add some value to the process, but in view of the
> >> nature (probably by design) of the proposed work-plan, I'm on the point
> >> of abandoning all but the most superficial of participation.
> >>
> >> I'm sure others are in this boat with me ...
> >>
> >>> On 30/12/15 11:28, Chris Disspain wrote:
> >>> Hi Mathieu,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for this. Do you have a proposed topic agenda yet. I won¹t be
> >>> able to make all the calls (and I expect others will be in the same
> >>> boat) so it would helpful to have an overarching agenda for the calls
> as
> >>> soon as possible. Apologies if this has been sent already and I have
> >>> missed it.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 30 Dec 2015, at 20:50 , Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> >>>> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Kavouss, Dear Paul, All,
> >>>>
> >>>> Some of you have raised concerns about the work plan and the decision
> >>>> to
> >>>> schedule two calls a week, announced in my 24th December email.
> >>>>
> >>>> Participants to our meeting #73 will remember that this issue was
> >>>> discussed during that call
> >>>> (https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56986612).
> >>>> Key
> >>>> take away was the need for plenary discussions rather than multiplying
> >>>> subgroups.
> >>>>
> >>>> While we certainly recognize the different views expressed about the
> >>>> timeline for delivering our final report, we are also trying to
> >>>> organize
> >>>> our calls in a manner that enables inclusive and informed debate about
> >>>> the
> >>>> comments received. 24 hours of calls in January "only" represent two
> >>>> hours
> >>>> of discussions per recommendation (leaving aside other types of issues
> >>>> that we dedicate time on during our calls). Two hours to fully
> >>>> understand
> >>>> concerns and find a way forward that is acceptable to all.
> >>>>
> >>>> We hope that, by using a topic based agenda and providing a thorough
> >>>> analysis of the comments received ahead of the call, we can make the
> >>>> best
> >>>> use of everyone's time during these calls, so that they can remain
> >>>> driven
> >>>> by the willingness to understand each of the concerns in good faith
> and
> >>>> find common ground, as we have demonstrated in the past that our group
> >>>> can
> >>>> do.
> >>>>
> >>>> If needed and desired within the group, we might have to rely on
> >>>> intensive
> >>>> days (possibly on a week end) as some of you suggested, but we are
> >>>> aware
> >>>> of the challenges of such an approach and would like to avoid that as
> >>>> much
> >>>> as possible.
> >>>>
> >>>> As a follow up to the discussion that took place during our meeting
> >>>> #73,
> >>>> we will put these proposals for discussion during our next meeting, on
> >>>> January 5th, and look forward to your further contributions and
> >>>> suggestions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Leon, Thomas & Mathieu
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