[CCWG-ACCT] Slides CCWG Call #39
Jordan Carter
jordan at internetnz.net.nz
Tue Jul 7 12:30:22 UTC 2015
hi Chris
I don't understand how your comment relates to Malcolm's?
cheers
Jordan
On 8 July 2015 at 00:21, Chris Disspain <ceo at auda.org.au> wrote:
> Hello Malcolm,
>
> I’m afraid I disagree with your interpretation. An intransigent position
> that does not countenance the possibility of movement away from or towards
> various solutions is a guarantee of failure when it comes to reaching
> consensus.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Chris
>
> On 7 Jul 2015, at 22:16 , Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 07/07/2015 13:02, Kimberly Carlson wrote:
>
> Here are today’s slides in both PowerPoint and PDF formats.
>
>
> On slide 2, "Overview", it says
>
> "The two new models seek to address concerns expressed by members of the
> multi-stakeholder community on the Community Empowerment Mechanism
> described in Section 5 of CCWG’s Accountability Initial Draft Proposal
> for Public Comment (4 May 2015) (“Initial Proposal”)"
>
>
> I'm afraid that this suggests that once again the lawyers have been
> asked to examine the wrong question.
>
>
> The issue we must consider is not merely which of these two models will
> best deliver on Section 5 of the CCWG's proposal, the community powers,
> but which will best deliver *all* of it.
>
> Section 3 ("Principles") and Section 4 ("Appeals Mechanisms") are
> essential elements of the CCWG proposal. So the lawyer's ought to have
> been asked to consider how the two models differ in their effects on
> those two sections too.
>
> As it happens, there is a passing mention of disparate effect: on slide
> 16 "Empowered SO/AC Designator Model" under "Problems/Complications" it
> states "SOs and ACs would not have the reserved powers of members to
> reverse board decisions like [...] implementing IRP recommendations."
>
> However this crucial distinction has been given very little visibility
> of emphasis, I think as a result of concentrating only on Section 5, to
> the exclusion of Sections 3 & 4.
>
>
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