[CCWG-ACCT] Who is managing the lawyers and what have they beenasked to do?

Giovanni Seppia Giovanni.Seppia at eurid.eu
Tue Jul 7 21:05:48 UTC 2015


Hi Eberhard,

Thanks for this message.

The point I tried to make was to answer your question “What interest does a ccTLD have in ICANN?”.

My answer was/is that if you are a ccTLD wishing to have the string in your script you have to go through the ccTLD Fast Track process which is managed by ICANN.

Best,

Giovanni



On 07 Jul 2015, at 22:34, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na<mailto:el at lisse.na>> wrote:

Giovanni,

Besides that I have not only been opposed to the
Fast-Track process and voted against it, it was a
ccNSO process.

In order for the ccNSO to circumvent having to
do a PDP. Quite some accountability issues there.

But none of the IDNs is in the ISO tables and hence
they are not really ccTLDs so I am not sure RFC
1591 applies to them, nor are they gTLDs.

But, no ccTLD *HAS* to have an IDN. Technically
speaking its the ccTLD Manager in the first place,
but some may *WANT* to have an IDN.

And, unless I am mistaken, more or less anyone
can apply for an IDN, not judt the corresponding
ccTLD Manager.

el

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On Jul 7, 2015, at 16:39, Giovanni Seppia <Giovanni.Seppia at eurid.eu<mailto:Giovanni.Seppia at eurid.eu>> wrote:

Dear Eberhard,

ccTLDs must go through the ICANN ccTLD IDN Fast Track process to get the IDN version of their ccTLD.

Best,

Giovanni

On 07 Jul 2015, at 15:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na<mailto:el at lisse.na>> wrote:

Dear Co-Chairs,

What interest does a ccTLD have in ICANN? Other than IANA staff
making the odd name server change (NSF) and WHOIS database entry change
(DEF)?

None whatsoever.

This is even reflected in the bylaws. Maybe reading them helps.

el


On 2015-07-07 13:49, Malcolm Hutty wrote:


On 07/07/2015 13:41, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs,

If I recall correctly Chris Dispain already shared concerns about
the ccNSO being able to become a member.

Neither model does anything for ccTLDs, because the ccNSO has no
mandate to speak for individual ccTLs, whether members of ccNSO,
or not.


ccNSO may not speak for individual ccTLDs, but does it not speak
for ccTLDs collectively?  For example, to uphold the legitimate
interest ccTLDs have in ICANN honouring its own bylaws?


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