[CCWG-ACCT] Concept of some form of "independent" member

[Rosemary E. Fei]

Natural persons are legal persons, but so are entities recognized as legal persons (like corporations and unincorporated associations).  Legal persons is the larger term; natural persons are a subset of legal persons.

Hope that's clearer.

Rosemary

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From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:24 AM
To: Holly Gregory
Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Concept of some form of "independent" member

Then we have a terminology issue as that is not my understanding.

Can you take me to authority for your interpretation, please?

A legal person that is /not/ a natural person (i.e. a corporation, or other "juristic person".

This article seems to be of the same mind :-

http://www.publishyourarticles.net/knowledge-hub/law/what-are-the-differences-between-natural-person-and-legal-person/4209/



On 17/07/15 12:13, Gregory, Holly wrote:
> Natural persons (humans) are legal persons
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> Greg
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> I think this is incorrect. I find it hard to imagine a corporation 
> (and, particularly a non-profit corporation) which is required by law 
> to restrict membership to legal persons in this way, that is to 
> *require* members to be legal persons.
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> I cannot believe US law is so fundamentally different here -- members 
> of a corporation may normally be either natural persons or legal 
> persons unless there are explicit restrictions in the Articles, which 
> is a matter of choice, not compulsion.
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> (I can imagine a non-profit CHOOSING to restrict membership to one or 
> the other but I can't imagine any statutory requirement of this 
> nature.)
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> A trade association MIGHT restrict membership to legal persons: e.g. 
> the Association of Incorporated Widget Makers (fictitious) may only 
> allow incorporated makes of widgets; however it would be less 
> unexpected to see non-profits expecting members to be natural persons 
> only (e.g. the American Radio Relay League see http://www.arrl.org/arrl-by-laws).
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> Can you expand on this please?
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> On 17/07/15 09:47, Greg Shatan wrote:
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>> hands of the community, and to have these powers as a matter of right.
>> Members must be legal persons.
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