[CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the ICANN Board

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Fri Jul 24 18:00:13 UTC 2015

I would like to see the actual text before agreeing that we are good to go.

Specifically, if the NomCom identifies their"interim" members before 
the vote, they are identifying candidates who they are prepared to 
name, but who will not be Board members if the recall fails. I 
suspect that may be counter to how they normally treat NomCom candidatures.


At 24/07/2015 12:24 AM, Thomas Rickert wrote:
>Hi Alan,
>_should_ was meant to indicate it is not mandatory. We could specify 
>that the NomCom, should it have qualified candidates available, put 
>up at least two Board members. Let others do the wordsmithing.
>Idea being:
>- NomCom is not forced to provide candidates if they do not have any
>- if they have some, they should give at least two, max 8
>I am glad Holly responded to Sam's concern.
>Are we good to go?
>Am 23.07.2015 um 23:26 schrieb Alan Greenberg 
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>:
>>How can we do that? At any given time, they may not have an Board 
>>names in reserve.   Alan
>>At 23/07/2015 03:50 PM, Thomas Rickert wrote:
>>>I suggest we say NomCom shall not put up less than two.
>>>That should give enough flexibility to cover all wishes that were 
>>>brought forward.
>>>PS - Sent from my cell. Please excuse typos and brevity.
>>>Am 23.07.2015 um 20:41 schrieb Greg Shatan 
>>><<mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>gregshatanipc at gmail.com >:
>>>>I think this point has moved on a bit, based on the call earlier 
>>>>today.  The NomCom will not be putting up alternates.  I believe 
>>>>where we are now is that the NomCom will (in the event of a 
>>>>spill) put up at least two and possibly up to eight interim 
>>>>directors at that time.  I'm not sure but they may have the 
>>>>option of not putting up directors at all, but I think that did 
>>>>not come out on top in the call.
>>>>NomCom gets more good candidates than they nominate, so there is 
>>>>a pool from which to draw on, should the time ever come.
>>>>I think this is right or close to it, but the next draft should 
>>>>clear this up.
>>>>On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Seun Ojedeji 
>>>><<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>seun.ojedeji at gmail.com > wrote:
>>>>I agree with this as well, although I thought there was clear 
>>>>direction on this subject in Paris.
>>>>Sent from Google nexus 4
>>>>kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>On 23 Jul 2015 7:23 pm, "Cherine Chalaby" 
>>>><<mailto:cherine.chalaby at icann.org> cherine.chalaby at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>I agree. It does not make sense to ask NomCom to nominate 
>>>>alternates.   Cherine
>>>>>On 23 Jul 2015, at 15:23, Marilyn Cade 
>>>>><<mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>marilynscade at hotmail.com > wrote:
>>>>>I agree with not asking the NomCom to put up alternates. 
>>>>>Spilling the Board should be so exceptional and a smaller exe 
>>>>>board should be able to then launch a process, which could 
>>>>>result in both elections and in appointments.
>>>>> > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:13:13 +0100
>>>>> > From: <mailto:malcolm at linx.net>malcolm at linx.net
>>>>> > To: 
>>>>> <mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz>jordan at internetnz.net.nz; 
>>>>> <mailto:wp1 at icann.org>wp1 at icann.org; 
>>>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>accountability-cross-community at icann.org 
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the 
>>>>> ICANN Board
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 23/07/2015 11:18, Jordan Carter wrote:
>>>>> > > See my edits in the files beginning with 2015-07-23.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > One comment: I thought the general view in Paris was that NomCom would
>>>>> > not nominate members of an interim Board. I doubt the practicality of
>>>>> > requiring it to do so.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That seems to have changed; perhaps I missed some discussion. Or
>>>>> > misperceived the general view.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Requiring NomCom to put up alternates at the AGM creates the "people
>>>>> > standing in the shadows waiting for a chance" that were mentioned as a
>>>>> > prospect to be avoided, and was accepted as a reason for not requiring
>>>>> > SOs and ACs to nominate alternates with every appointment.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Moreover, how will NomCom find people willing to commit to drop
>>>>> > everything and become an interim director in the unlikely event of a
>>>>> > Board spill, knowing that it is highly unlikely this will ever come to
>>>>> > pass?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It is surely much easier to ask someone "Will you agree to serve as a
>>>>> > director now?" than "Will you agree to serve as a director in an
>>>>> > unspecified number of months, should some very unlikely event come to
>>>>> > pass?".
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For these reasons, I think that excusing NomCom from 
>>>>> nominating interim
>>>>> > directors is a better choice.
>>>>> >
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