[CCWG-ACCT] Call(s) on Thursday

[Alan Greenberg]

Some members share your concern with the haste 
and lack of (in my mind) careful reflection on 
the impact of some of the changes (perhaps 
different ones than you are concerned with, perhaps the same).

The Mythical Man Month is one of my bibles! That 
section of the book includes the sentence "It is 
a very humbling experience to make a 
multimillion-dollar mistake, but it is also very 
memorable." Those were 1964 dollars that Brooks 
was talking about, and he woefully underestimated 
the impact in the 1975 book. What is at stake 
here is a lot more than money. I hope we will not have such memories.

Alan

At 29/07/2015 07:21 AM, George Sadowsky wrote:
>Nigel,
>
>What follows is totally my personal opinion.
>
>I am less than a mere participant, having joined 
>this conversation essentially too late to be 
>meaningfully informed and involved.
>
>However, I do share with you the magnitude of 
>the changes that are being proposed, along with 
>inadequate time to explore their 
>ramifications.  I would rather see a solid 
>governance structure for the future and a 
>delayed transition as opposed to a transition 
>that meets the current deadline and a a untested 
>and incomplete governance structure that seriously harms the organization.
>
>In the 1970s Fred Brooks, the designer of the 
>IBM 360 series, wrote a book called "The 
>Mythical Man Month,"  Its very good reading, 
>with application to a lot of current day 
>issues.  One of its chapters is titled, "There's 
>never time to do it right, but there's always 
>time to do it over."  I worry that this will be 
>the outcome of the current CCWG exercise.
>
>George
>
>
>On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:27 AM, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
>
> > As a mere participant I have found it almost 
> impossible to join the calls due to the vast 
> number of them and the release of important 
> documents no more than hours before.
> >
> > If I was cynical, I would suggest this method 
> of working was deliberately exclusionary.
> >
> > As several other participants know from their 
> membership of another extremely important and 
> potentially controversial WG, there is another, better, way.
> >
> > But that would incompatible with the self-created urgency.
> >
> > I am beginning to become seriously worried 
> that major changes will be made to the ICANN 
> structure and IANA relationship without the 
> time for due consideration, just because 
> there's a US Presidential election in the office.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/29/2015 09:05 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >> I have a previous engagement at 17:00 UTC.
> >>
> >> And as previously I object against having 2 or more calls on the same day.
> >>
> >> greetings, el
> >>
> >> On 2015-07-29 08:23, Grace Abuhamad wrote:
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> The poll is now closed. Staff will proceed to schedule _two calls
> >>> for Thursday 30 July_:
> >>>
> >>>   * 11:00 ­ 13:00 UTC
> >>>   * 17:00 ­ 19:00 UTC (this call may need to be extended depending on
> >>>     progress made)
> >>>
> >>> Please look forward to calendar notices. The Agenda will follow later
> >>> today.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Grace
> >> [...]
> >>
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