[CCWG-ACCT] My Group's Better Than Your Group

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Wed Jul 29 19:37:55 UTC 2015


On 29-Jul-15 18:43, Greg Shatan wrote:
> I would like to humbly suggest that recent discussions attempting to
> define the scope, value, relevance, importance, etc. of groups other
> than one's own for the purpose of devaluing that other group's
> influence in the community processes are counterproductive.
> It drives the community apart and send members/participants back to
> their corners.  It also tends to undermine confidence in our processes
> and our outcomes -- by members/participants and by observers.
> If we want to have a rational discourse about this, I think we would
> need to set some rather different ground rules for it to be
> productive.  Right now, this seems more suited for the playground,
> locker room or bar (depending on what one is comparing), rather than a
> "constitutional congress."
> Finally, we may have hurt the feelings of the ASO, since no one has
> taken a shot at them (yet).  I'm sure they feel quite left out.
> In all seriousness, I suggest we either put these discussions aside or
> find a more productive and less corrosive way to frame them.
> Greg
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