[CCWG-ACCT] Voting weights in community mechanism

[Jordan Carter]

Dear Kavouss,

You are right.

If SOs and ACs are not participating as voters, then they do not vote. They
do not abstain or do anything else. They can *advise* whatever they like.
But they cast no votes, have no ballots, etc.

bests,
Jordan

On 30 July 2015 at 10:18, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All
> I do not understand what legally means the abstention of non participation
> . The voting results is always counted based on those who participate in
> voting .
> Those who do not participate SHALL NOT be counted as Abstention.
> This is alphabet of voting and the issue must be mentioned in each of
> voting procedure as follows:
> X% of those participating in voting and Vote.
> Last night I  verified more than 20 convention, constitution,charter ,
> agreement ,covenant and ..... All do not count non voters as abstention
> Regards
> Kavouss
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 30 Jul 2015, at 05:31, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 29 Jul 2015 9:14 pm, "Malcolm Hutty" <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 29 Jul 2015, at 20:37, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > A concern has come to our attention with this latest, new, proposal.
> If SSAC and RSSAC have 10 votes out of 35, they could jointly block a Board
> recall (75% votes required, 27 votes). Since they are both composed of
> individuals appointed by the Board, some may question their independence in
> case such a power is triggered. This could raise concerns of conflicts of
> interest.
> >
> > It's not just that. If we go with the algorithm that an abstention has
> the same effect as a vote against (as discussed on the call yesterday) then
> they will be certain to block recall,
> >
> SO: I think it may be good to distinct the type of abstentions; Abstention
> of participating SO/AC would be different from Abstention of
> non-participating SO/AC. I expect the later will not affect/impact the
> votes in any way.
>
> >
> since these two organisations have made it abundantly clear that they do
> not wish to vote, do not consider it appropriate to their mandate, and have
> no intention of doing so under any circumstances.
> >
> SO: Well that could be a view of the present but the proposal we are
> developing now is for the future. One of the duo did formerly join this
> working group recently (which I think was a good thing) even though there
> were indication of not joining at the earlier stage of this process. So
> things can change and those stress tests needs to be done and sufficiently
> catered for in the ccwg report/proposal
>
> Regards
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