[CCWG-ACCT] way forward and minority statements
Dr Eberhard W Lisse
el at lisse.na
Thu Jul 30 00:22:23 UTC 2015
That was decided by whom?
It is quite clear that the Co-Chairs' unilateral decisions with regards to any work plan related issues violate the Charter.
But apart from process, this is wrong, or would that be due process? Never mind even the Ombudsman quite carefully wording concern
There is nothing in the Charter preventing us from separating dissent per se and the rationale therefor.
Fortunately this is all on a publicly archived mailing list.
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
> On Jul 29, 2015, at 22:41, Thomas Rickert <thomas at rickert.net> wrote:
> a statement can be sent later, but it might then be published after the report is published. It will be added to minority statements, but not incorporated in the report.
>> Am 29.07.2015 um 21:41 schrieb Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>:
>> I would suggest that the Chairs should reconsider the deadline for submission of minority statements. A deadline 15 hours from the presumed end of document review and reconsideration ( the second call on Thursday) is unreasonable by any measure of fairness. If production deadlines and / or the dates of the public comment must be slightly shifted to accommodate the fair provision of minority views, that is a far more appropriate response to the deadline problem than squeezing those who wish to present alternate views to the public for consideration. Most of us are volunteers, with day jobs, family responsibilities and the need to sleep. If the Chairs are adamant about this deadline I would ask that the Ombudsman weigh in on the issue of fairness. I should note that I have no intention of filing a minority statement - I am aware of others, however, who wish to do so but would be precluded by what I certainly believe is an inadequate allowance of time for them to do so.
>> Edward Morrisd
>> From: "Thomas Rickert" <thomas at rickert.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 5:08 PM
>> To: "Accountability Cross Community" <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] way forward and minority statements
>> as you will remember, we have discussed our suggested way forward and the question of minority statements in our call yesterday. Nonetheless, we would like to offer some more information on this.
>> We would like to present to the community not only a draft report, but a consensus proposal. We do hope to have reached consensus on all questions so there will be no need for an additional determination of consensus after the public comment period unless the community input requires us to revisit substantial parts of our proposal.
>> 1. We suggest you file a minority statement if you object to the overall set of recommendations. The minority statement will be referred to in an appendix to the report.
>> 2. We suggest you provide us with your dissenting opinion to individual questions so that we can include it in the body of the report. We already heard from individuals that they appreciate this option as they do not wish their objection to an individual aspect of the report to be perceived as opposition to the overall approach we are taking. If you consider using this option, please use the following format to help add value to the proposal:
>> i. raise your concern
>> ii. provide a rationale for your concern
>> iii. please offer an alternative suggestion
>> In order for your statements (both minority statements and dissenting opinions on individual questions) to be published at the same time as the report will be published, they need to be received by rapporteurs, co-chairs or staff by 12.00 UTC on the 31st of July.
>> PS: In case we do not reach consensus but can only present a draft, the situation is not different from the first report and we will not have minority statements for such report. According to our charter, minority statements offer a chance to oppose to a consensus. In the absence of consensus, there is no need for minority statements. Please note that in this case, we will still allow for minority statement to be added to our final report.
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