[CCWG-ACCT] so what is the current outcome on human rights.

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Thu Jul 30 23:17:23 UTC 2015


I"m glad.  I think we could all use a chuckle.
SP

On 2015-07-30 19:15, Chris Disspain wrote:
> LOL!
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> Cheers,
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> Chris
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>> On 31 Jul 2015, at 09:13 , Stephanie Perrin 
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
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>> +1.  The UN Declaration is the recognized bedrock, really.  However, 
>> the convenants are where things get specific.  Requires further work, 
>> which fortunately is already started in the Human Rights community 
>> working party.
>> As for ICANN taking tangible action...may I humbly suggest that 
>> dropping the public meeting of the Board and the NCSG would go a long 
>> way to compliance with Article 5...
>> (that is the one on torture, to save you looking it 
>> up....http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/)
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> On 2015-07-30 18:44, Chris Disspain wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Irrespective of whether this ends up in WS 1 or 2 we really do need 
>>> to do the work to define what we mean by the words we use. What are 
>>> fundamental human rights? Whose definition are we using? And it 
>>> would be really useful to have some examples of something concrete 
>>> ICANN would have to do if it made this commitment or something it 
>>> would not be able to do.
>>>
>>> If we are not prepared or equipped to do that work now then this 
>>> MUST go to WS 2 IMO. If we are prepared to do the work now I’m happy 
>>> to help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>> On 31 Jul 2015, at 08:37 , Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at actonline.org 
>>>> <mailto:JZuck at actonline.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good question! The waters got muddy at the end. I appears as though 
>>>> there was a simple majority in favor of something being in there 
>>>> and, given that, a simple majority in favor of Greg's language. I 
>>>> don't know what that means for the draft that will go out to the 
>>>> public. There was talk of another poll on the listserv to capture 
>>>> more folks.
>>>>
>>>> 80% sure you don't need to draft anything and Greg will need to 
>>>> draft an inline objection on behalf of part of the CSG....but who 
>>>> knows?
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Zuck
>>>> President
>>>> 202-331-2130 X 101 |jzuck at actonline.org 
>>>> <mailto:jzuck at actonline.org>| Skype: jvzuck
>>>>
>>>> ACT | The App Association
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>>>> behalf of Avri Doria <avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:27 PM
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>>>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] so what is the current outcome on human rights.
>>>>
>>>> Dear esteemed chairs,
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it was because I was following only the chat, but I cannot tell
>>>> where the issue was left.  I am sorry I could not stay on the call, but
>>>> I had a classroom of students I was guiding through a multistakeholder
>>>> practicum. i.e I was working, for pay even.
>>>>
>>>> Does the reference recommendation currently include a bylaw on 
>>>> Human Rights?
>>>> If so, which one?
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to decide on whether I need to spend tonight finishing my
>>>> minority report or not.
>>>>
>>>> Also Is the deadline for the minority reports that want to be 
>>>> include in
>>>> the report still Friday at 1800 utc?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
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