[CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight Argentina time

[Paul Rosenzweig]

Well said.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roelof Meijer [mailto:Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl] 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:15 AM
To: Paul Rosenzweig
Cc: 'CCWG Accountability'
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight
Argentina time

Dear Paul, all,

To make sure that the record, and any future historian, gets this right: I
completely agree with Paul¹s assessment of the performance and conduct of
our co-chairs and rapporteurs.

Additionally, als to make sure that both the record and future historians
get this right, let¹s all agree that volume is not equal to accuracy and
lack of contradiction does not at all means agreement.

I am of the opinion that the best way to deal with Eberhard Lisse¹s
completely unfounded, aggressive criticism  often aimed at CCWG colleagues
who, in sharp contrast, contribute enormously to our goal, can best be
ignored.
As we witness now again, every reaction to him, provokes another reaction,
frustrating us all, distracting us from our work and not getting us any
further.

It¹s just a game to him, let¹s refuse to play.

If we really want this to stop, we should deal with it in a structural way,
not by agreeing publicly that we all disagree.

Best,

Roelof Meijer




On 22-06-15 08:16, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on
behalf of Paul Rosenzweig"
<accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:

>Colleagues
>
>It seems to me worth recording, for "the record" that our colleague so 
>frequently alludes to, some thoughts about the leadership of our group.
>Given the frequency and vituperative nature of the criticism emanating 
>from one corner, I would not want silence in our discussions to in any 
>way betoken agreement or assent.  When some future historian looks back 
>on these proceedings they might mistake volume for accuracy and lack of 
>contradiction for agreement.  That is most certainly not the case (at 
>least not for me, and I suspect for many others).
>
>I, for one, began this process with a modest amount of optimism that it 
>could prove productive and a healthy dollop of skepticism that so 
>unwieldy a process could be effectively managed.  In 35 years in 
>government and the private sector I have seen any number of committees 
>with a much narrower mandate and a much smaller membership flounder and 
>fail.
>
>We should all, therefore, reflect that our co-Chairs and rapporteurs 
>have, through their efforts, managed to push us along this far and this 
>effectively.  They have run an open and transparent process.  They have 
>been inclusive.  They have moved the discussion along (perhaps too fast 
>for some, but well within the bounds of reasonableness).  They have 
>exhibited patience beyond measure (I, personally, would long ago have 
>asked the chartering organization to recall its member).  And, to their 
>very great credit, they have allowed the process to run without 
>imposing their own views -- indeed, I would be hard pressed to state 
>exactly what they might be -- an exercise in restraint that deserves 
>praise.
>
>In short, by any objective measure our co-Chairs have done a fine job.  
>It has not been perfect, to be sure, but it has met every objective 
>test of reasonableness that one can devise.  I reject utterly any 
>suggestion of bias, animus, or dishonesty.  Those  are baseless puerile 
>allegations that reflect more on the nature of the accuser, whose views 
>will, I am sure, be seen in retrospect as baseless.
>
>Regards
>Paul
>
>Paul Rosenzweig
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Malcolm Hutty [mailto:malcolm at linx.net]
>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:59 PM
>To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
>Cc: List ccTLD Community; CCWG Accountability; Lisse Eberhard; 
><ccnso-members at icann.org>; cctldworld at icann.org
>Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by 
>midnight Argentina time
>
>On 21/06/2015 21:26, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>> Dear Co-Chairs,
>> 
>> Your Co-Chair is being quite economical with the truth.
>
>Dear Dr Lisse,
>
>I am getting quite tired of the repeated disrespect you are showing to 
>our colleagues, and your unfair attempts to impugne their integrity.
>
>The communique was proposed to the meeting and read out. Participants 
>were invited to comment; there being no substantive comments, the 
>communique was accepted. I don't know what more deliberation you could 
>want. The handling was entirely proper and normal.
>
>Your attacks on León are without a shred of justification, as were your 
>previous attacks on our co-chairs. He deserves your apology, as do 
>they; if you choose to withhold it, that reflects upon you, not on 
>them.
>
>Perhaps you might wish to reflect on how counter-productive your 
>approach is to any effort to persuade colleagues to give their 
>attention to your interventions, and the disservice you are doing your 
>own cause thereby.
>
>I am a proud proponent of the multistakeholder model. Many on this list 
>are new to this model, and unused to the opportunity openness to all 
>does give to those who wish to be rude and disruptive. I am embarrassed 
>to think how they must feel when they see this spat, and the other 
>occasions you have mistreated colleagues here.
>
>I can only hope that our new colleagues can look past the behaviour of 
>one individual and recognise the deep well of cooperation and goodwill 
>that characterises the rest of our work. I hope they can still find it 
>in themselves to agree with me that the great achievement of building a 
>broad base of consensus in such a challenging area is worth even the 
>inconvenience of suffering such rudeness.
>
>I am sorry I have had to be so blunt, but remaining silent felt too 
>much like complicity in an injustice.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Malcolm Hutty.
>
>
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