[CCWG-ACCT] revised deck

Jordan Carter jordan at internetnz.net.nz
Wed Jun 24 18:06:46 UTC 2015


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On 24 June 2015 at 14:44, Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz> wrote:

>  I have modified the Empowered SO/SC Model deck to reflect some of the
> issues that have come up in our discussions since Friday.  Please don’t be
> concerned if it does not reflect an issue of particular concern to you -
> this is still very much a discussion draft.
>
>
>  J. Beckwith Burr
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>   From: <Burr>, Becky Burr <becky.burr at neustar.biz>
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 5:32 PM
> To: Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com>, Kavouss Arasteh <
> kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> Cc: "directors at omadhina.net" <directors at omadhina.net>, Accountability
> Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] A question about WS1 v WS2
>
>   To amplify on Keith’s point – we must get it done right, and in a
> timely fashion.   I see both as mandatory criteria.  Neither objective
> should – or need be – sacrificed in the name of the other.   We have a
> window of opportunity that may close, at least for some period of time, as
> 2016 progresses.
>
>
>
>
>  J. Beckwith Burr
>
> *Neustar, Inc. /* Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer
>
> 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006
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> Office: + 1.202.533.2932  Mobile:  +1.202.352.6367  /
> becky.burr at neustar.biz / www.neustar.biz
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>   From: <Drazek>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> Date: Monday, June 22, 2015 at 11:43 PM
> To: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> Cc: "directors at omadhina.net" <directors at omadhina.net>, Accountability
> Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] A question about WS1 v WS2
>
>
>  Thank you Kavouss and Jonathan and Jordan.
>
>  We need to get our work done correctly AND in a timely manner to enable
> a successful transition.
>
>  I believe we can do both. They are not mutually exclusive.
>
>  That is precisely why we agreed to bifurcate our work into WS-1 and WS-2.
>
>  Regards,
> Keith
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Agree with Jonathan
> We must concentrate on priority actions
> Pls do not involve  us in something which is not pressing . We have
> littlke time
> We do not want to spent hours and hours on these like those hours that we
> wasted on UA.
> We were misled and we do not want to do it again
> The working method and priorities must be identified and decided at the
> level of the main group and not at the level of working parties
> Regards
> Kavouss
>
> 2015-06-23 0:23 GMT+02:00 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Colleagues,
>>
>> In agreement with Dr. Lisse, we need to get it right nonetheless the
>> essence of strategy is choosing what not to do. (Michael Porter)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/23/15, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>> > Dear Co-Chairs,
>> >
>> > he's wrong. As usual.
>> >
>> > We need to get it right. Not get it done.
>> >
>> > Never mind that Strickling has pronounced himself very clearly and
>> > repeatedly.
>> >
>> > el
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>> >
>> >> On Jun 22, 2015, at 17:24, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at actonline.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I certainly agree with your interpretation, Jordan. The pressing
>> nature of
>> >> the transition dictates we limit our function to empowering the
>> community
>> >> and not trying to solve every challenge of ICANN accountability.
>> There’s a
>> >> great deal that can and should be done to improve the accountability of
>> >> the organization as a whole including operational improvements and
>> >> metrics, facilitating periodic participation in policy development and
>> >> greater use of data in policy development as well as establishing a
>> >> culture of continuous improvement (working on those two!).
>> >>
>> >> But we can't do that in WS1
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan Zuck
>> >> President
>> >> ACT: The App Association
>> >> http://Www.ACTonline.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__Www.ACTonline.org&d=AwMF_g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=lYaanM0LtSkNzSSPuIrVvnPTHZ729G7_pp66_aXJ1Ik&s=bUvwXc-OhZpubppydzO11hdbQulw89NTJxF-PfVf0MA&e=>
>> >>
>> >> From: Jordan Carter
>> >> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:19 PM
>> >> To: Accountability CCWG
>> >>
>> >> Hi all
>> >>
>> >> I had the dubious pleasure of reading a post by one of our participants
>> >> which got me thinking a range of things[1].. some of them constructive
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> One is something I wanted to test others' views on.
>> >>
>> >> Both in Kieran's piece and in the other feedback from various
>> >> conversations and comments, there's a clear current of both
>> >> staff/management accountability and ICANN entities/organisations
>> >> accountability as needing work.
>> >>
>> >> Now, I agree with that - I think the openness of this ICANN system is
>> very
>> >> poor, due to many things - the ridiculous time demands it makes on
>> people
>> >> to understand how it works (something none of our proposals materially
>> >> complicates), the density and extent of the information, the rushed
>> pace
>> >> of many discussions, the ICANN way of doing multiple things at once,
>> etc
>> >> etc.
>> >>
>> >> I also think the culture across the organisation is relatively inwardly
>> >> focused... and that the Board has a job to do in building a culture and
>> >> practice of accountability and community engagement in parts of the
>> staff.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> But those are the views of an insider/outsider: someone whose job links
>> >> him to this ICANN system, but who has only (!) attended six meetings of
>> >> ICANN. Others of you will have different perspectives.
>> >>
>> >> To the crux of my point: while I would really like us to tackle all the
>> >> above, we face an imperative to not hold up the transition. I think we
>> >> have been clear about that from the beginning, which was delayed from
>> when
>> >> it should have happened due to some of the factors I note above.
>> >>
>> >> So: my interpretation has always been as follows:
>> >>
>> >> Making ICANN's operations more generally accountable, and the whole
>> >> organisation more outward looking and open, is very important - but our
>> >> job in WorkStream 1 has been to put in place the structural features
>> of a
>> >> new accountability settlement that will give us the chance to achieve
>> that
>> >> in WorkStream 2.
>> >>
>> >> To put it another way: we have to constrain ourselves to building the
>> >> levers in this WS1 process that will allow the broader changes to
>> approach
>> >> that are needed and will be on the table in WS2, and then the first of
>> the
>> >> new ATRT reviews.
>> >>
>> >> Do you share this understanding of why we have limited our focus?
>> >>
>> >> Interested in people's thoughts on this. Want to know if I am out on a
>> >> limb!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >> Jordan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1]:
>> >>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/18/us_government_stages_another_iana_intervention/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.theregister.co.uk_2015_06_18_us-5Fgovernment-5Fstages-5Fanother-5Fiana-5Fintervention_&d=AwMF_g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=lYaanM0LtSkNzSSPuIrVvnPTHZ729G7_pp66_aXJ1Ik&s=2bk70Iq5_dRKLoZt9BmoYY_NBZtKtMdyJE6s0--YbHA&e=>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jordan Carter
>> >>
>> >> Chief Executive
>> >> InternetNZ
>> >>
>> >> 04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)
>> >> jordan at internetnz.net.nz
>> >> Skype: jordancarter
>> >>
>> >> A better world through a better Internet
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>>  --
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