[CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft legal questions

Roelof Meijer Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl
Tue Mar 3 13:50:50 UTC 2015


In the "proposals under construction" paragraph, three mechanisms that we identified (ref. our „scope, powers and mechanisms" document) seem to be missing: existing SO/AC structure, permananet CCWG, supervisory board/two tier board construction

Cheers,

Roelof

From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org<mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
Date: maandag 2 maart 2015 21:17
To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: Draft legal questions

Also attached this time as a .pdf.

On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Robin Gross wrote:

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback and good suggestions for improvements to the draft legal scoping document.  I've tried to incorporate the various edits to the current version of the document, which can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/132V7P8nmyalhoso7zcevjW3_ox1laXn5JIEH3dDAF3A/edit?usp=sharing

Please let me know if I've missed any or if there are other comments on this draft legal scoping document.

Thanks,
Robin


On Feb 27, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva wrote:

Thanks Robin and Léon for the drafts. For some reason, I am unable to access the google drive docs, so I am sending my comments (as a representative of the Brazilian government) through this email:


-> In the "CCWGLegalquestions" document, under section "Issues related with jurisdictional matters", I suggest the addition of the following question:

"Considering that ICANN's current jurisdiction may eventually impose restrictions with regards to some of the mechanisms addressed in the preceding questions (i.e. dismissal of individual Board members, IRP overthrowing Board decisions, requirements for the appeals panel, membership structure), do these same restrictions also potentially apply in a scenario where ICANN has an international status, i.e. it is not subject to the legislation of a single country?"

-> Under the same section, I would remove question 'c', as the term 'best legal conditions' seems very vague and could potentially lead to unintentionally biased answers.


I am not sure if Robin's document is intended to replace the "CCWGLegalquestions" file. If that is the case, I would rephrase the fifth question under section "Specific Questions Related to Goals and Concerns" in the following way:

-> Which legal jurisdiction (including the possibility of international jurisdiction) provides for the ideal balance between community control, technical stability, and responsible corporate governance given the CCWG’s stated goals and concerns? Should ICANN consider relocating to another legal jurisdiction (outside of California), and if so, where and why? Considering that ICANN's current jurisdiction may eventually impose restrictions with regards to some of the CCWG's goals and concerns, do these same restrictions also potentially apply in a scenario where ICANN has an international status, i.e. it is not subject to the legislation of a single country?

In order to avoid confusion, it is important to note that "relocating ICANN to another legal jurisdiction" does not necessarily mean moving ICANN's headquarters to another country/state. I thought it would be worth mentioning it as in previous discussions this important distinction has not been stressed out.

Kind regards,

Sec. Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva
Divisão de Sociedade da Informação (DI)
Ministério das Relações Exteriores
T: + 55 61 2030-6609


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De: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] Em nome de Robin Gross
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 25 de fevereiro de 2015 23:14
Para: León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Accountability Cross Community
Assunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Draft legal questions

Hi all,

As suggested, I've re-worked the initial set of legal questions based upon the input from yesterday's CCWG call, and have the following legal scoping draft to propose:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/132V7P8nmyalhoso7zcevjW3_ox1laXn5JIEH3dDAF3A/edit?usp=sharing<https://docs.google.com/document/d/132V7P8nmyalhoso7zcevjW3_ox1laXn5JIEH3dDAF3A/edit?usp=sharing>

Please add any comments or suggested edits to the document for incorporation by the legal sub-team.

The draft also attached as .pdf.

Thanks,
Robin

On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:52 AM, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:


                Dear all,

                In the following link you will find the first draft set of questions developed by the legal sub-team for your review:

                https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xi-hs-i5z0XSicHxMjJlLiQ4xhFo1_IOQnEMXDp8U18/edit?usp=sharing

                Please keep in mind that this is work in progress and the list of questions is not a closed list but rather a list subject to add questions that are still missing.

                Robin Gross is in the process of drafting a framing letter that will provide context to the external lawyers as to where we are at now and our aims.

                The document is enabled so anyone with the link may comment but not edit. Please add any suggested edits as comments so they can be merged after review by the legal sub-team.

                I am also attaching a PDF version of the document for your convenience.


                Best regards,
                <CCWGLegalquestions.pdf>

                León

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