[CCWG-ACCT] Testimony from Fadi Chehade at the USA Senate hearing

Carrie Devorah carriedev at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 14:08:54 UTC 2015


I appreciate your thought Roelof.

I have documented as best as I can ICANN from before when it was NEWCO-
contracts, conversations. There is no speculation. The papers speak. IANA
was Jon Postel's baby. Jon was at UCLA working on government projects
before USC got involved. The history of IANA goes back to Darpa and Arpa.
I am welcome to you providing me, Roelof, with documentation of other
governments that funded this Newco evolution.

Greg sidebarred me re the Khadi Trademark.

Here is the Khadi domain that someone in GB bought.
http://www.whois.com/whois/khadi.com As I wrote to Greg the model of
"collisions", ICANN's word for 'you are using my Identity aka
Trademark/Domain", isnt a model of collision that will be new for Domains.
Identity theft or IP/content theft is the same.

So it will be a matter of time before Khadi sues the man in GB, too.

Sincerely
Carrie Devorah
www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl>
wrote:

>   >>ICANN is currently a steward of an endeavor built with American
> taxpayer money. IANA belongs to the American people.
>
>  I consider that to be absolute nonsense
>
>  Best,
>
>  Roelof Meijer
>
>   From: Carrie Devorah <carriedev at gmail.com>
> Date: woensdag 11 maart 2015 06:10
> To: Rahul Sharma <wisdom.stoic at gmail.com>
> Cc: Accountability Cross Community <
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Testimony from Fadi Chehade at the USA Senate
> hearing
>
>   Hi
>
>  ICANN is currently a steward of an endeavor built with American taxpayer
> money. IANA belongs to the American people.
>
>  The pull for IANA out of America is coming from the UN
>
>  Sincerely
>  Carrie Devorah
>  www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Rahul Sharma <wisdom.stoic at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  In his testimony, Fadi said “*ICANN has its global headquarters in the
>> United States, and there are no plans for that to change*.” When I met
>> Fadi two days back in New Delhi, he restated that now is not the time for
>> ICANN to move out of US; instead let's us all focus on stewardship
>> transition. That means ICANN will continue to remain subject to US laws
>> and jurisdiction, and ICANN even isn’t even considering propositions made
>> by several to move ICANN out of US. Also as far as I am aware, the working
>> group on ICANN Accountability (CCWG), is also not debating on this
>> particular aspect.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question is a) What are the Interest of ICANN in continuing to remain
>> subject to US jurisdiction and US laws? And b) If ICANN is to truly emerge
>> as a global institution, and to change the perception of other nation
>> states and stakeholder over USG special relation with ICANN, don’t you
>> think ICANN should move out of US, and ICANN & its functions should be
>> subject to global laws, not state of California laws?
>>
>>
>>  Look forward to views of members. It is really an important issue that
>> should be discussed.
>>
>>
>>  Best Regards,
>>
>> Rahul Sharma
>>
>> On 6 March 2015 at 02:57, Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Thanks for the link David.   I have attached the PDF of the testimony
>>> for convenience.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bruce Tonkin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
>>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *McAuley,
>>> David
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 March 2015 12:16 AM
>>> *To:* Kavouss Arasteh; Drazek, Keith
>>> *Cc:* ACCT-Staff; ccwg-accountability4 at icann.org; Accountability Cross
>>> Community
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] RES: [ST-WP] Additional Stress Tests to
>>> discuss
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Kavouss,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At this website is an archived video of the Senate hearing, and you
>>> scroll down (all the way under “Witness panel 1”) and click on each witness
>>> you can get access to their prepared remarks:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=683924ae-83d7-4bf4-922a-cdecb9556ba9&ContentType_id=14f995b9-dfa5-407a-9d35-56cc7152a7ed&Group_id=b06c39af-e033-4cba-9221-de668ca1978a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
>  Sincerely
> CARRIE Devorah
>  562 688 2883
>
>
>
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Sincerely
CARRIE Devorah
 562 688 2883



DISCLAIMER :
With the continuing crossing and interfacing of platforms both on & off
line both with & without our knowledge nor approval to note nothing sent
over the Internet anymore is ever private nor should be presumed to be so.
If it is that much of a secret, say nothing. If you must? Take a lesson
from our military- hand write the note, chew then swallow
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