[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting

[Robin Gross]

I share Keith's concern.  Let's remember we are holding ICANN to a high standard of transparency in its accountability processes - so of course that standard of transparency applies to this work as well.  I planned to arrive to Istanbul in time to attend any mtgs on Sunday so would like to attend this one as well at least as an observer.

Thanks,
Robin



On Mar 18, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Drazek, Keith wrote:

> Hi Seun,
>  
> I respectfully disagree.
>  
> If ICANN staff or Board members are participating in or attending a private planning meeting of the Advisors, then community members should also be invited to observe, at a minimum.
>  
> If you look at their agenda items 2-5 (especially 2-3), their private meeting will contribute to setting expectations and understanding of the issues. Wouldn’t that be best enabled through participation of CCWG members, or the Co-Chairs at a minimum?
>  
> In my opinion, it would be inappropriate for ICANN staff and/or Board members to have unique access to the Advisors at this sensitive and formative stage in their engagement with the CCWG.
>  
> Thanks and regards,
> Keith
>  
>  
>  
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> From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:19 PM
> To: Drazek, Keith
> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org; Adam Peake
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting
>  
> Hi,
> 
> While it may be fine to have them meet openly, I don't think it's something to worry about. The reason is because of their role being advisory; one would expect that whatever they determine would still be forwarded to ccwg as an advice to consider.
> 
> Regards
> 
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> 
> On 18 Mar 2015 19:09, "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek at verisign.com> wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
> Will any ICANN staff or Board members participate in or attend the private meeting of the Advisors?
> 
> Is there a reason their meeting is not open to observers?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Adam Peake
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:04 PM
> To: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG Advisors joining Istanbul meeting
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Three of the Advisors will attend the CCWG meeting on Monday and Tuesday next week:
> 
> Valerie D'Costa, Jan Scholte and Lee Bygrave
> (https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Advisors)
> 
> They arrive on Saturday and will hold their own meeting on Sunday morning and early afternoon. At least one other member, Willie Currie, will join remote.
> 
> This is the first time any of them will have had chance to meet face to face.  Tentative agenda for their meeting:
> 
> 09:00 - 15:00 local Istanbul  (07:00 - 13:00 UTC)
> 
> 1. Introduction & Opening Remarks
> 2. Topics of interest & Concerns
> 3. Understanding the context and recent developments 4. How can we help the CCWG?
> 5. Preparing for CCWG session
> 6. A.O.B
> 
> They will receive the same documents as all members of the CCWG, and we suspect their discussions will be shaped by those (WP1, WP2, stress test work party outcomes)
> 
> They will join the welcome cocktail.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Adam
> 
> Adam Peake
> 
> ICANN
> 
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