[CCWG-ACCT] Meeting with CCWG Advisors

[Greg Shatan]

Avri,

Thank you for writing this email, with which I fully agree.

Greg Shatan

On Sunday, March 22, 2015, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> In ICANN, we do have modifiers before Consensus.  And varying definitions
> depending on which of the SOAC or processes we are talking about.
>
> In GNSO PDP processes we talk about Full Consensus versus Consensus and
> that definiton of Consensus is not all that diffferent from the IETF
> defintion of rough consensus; though we often use polls instead of humming
> to help figure out how to continue the discussion toward consensus.
>
> The GNSO definition is different from the GAC deffintion which I wont
> presume to define.
>
> And in defining ICANN Consensus Policy, we have yet another definition
> which often depends on voting thresholds.
>
> Personally I find it hard to talk about Consensus in ICANN without using
> modifiers of some sort.
>
> As for an ICG definition of Consensus, that is beyond my pay grade to try
> and fathom.
>
> avri
>
> On 22-Mar-15 20:57, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>
>  Dear All,
>  Some  relevant questions and good reply.
> I strongly oppose any adjustive before consensus  whether it is " rough "
> or " Soft"  or any thing else.
> We are CCWG and not IETF.
> In ICG that term even though proposed was abandonnned
> Pls kindly do not interpret  " CONSENSUS"
> Regards
> Kavouss
>
> 2015-03-22 19:18 GMT+01:00 Rahul Sharma <wisdom.stoic at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wisdom.stoic at gmail.com');>>:
>
>> Hi Arun,
>>
>>  Just thinking aloud on the substance pointer raised - can
>> multistakholder model be evolved in a manner that ensures proportional
>> representation in communities, forums, structures and Board. When I say
>> proportional, I mean proportional to Internet population of the country.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rahul Sharma
>>
>>  On 22 March 2015 at 15:04, Arun Sukumar <arun.sukumar at nludelhi.ac.in
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','arun.sukumar at nludelhi.ac.in');>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Valerie D'Costa, an advisor to the CCWG, raised a couple of
>>> interesting and important questions on process and substance. I hope this
>>> is a faithful reproduction.
>>>
>>>  On process:
>>>
>>>  1. What should be the role of advisors? Should they offer advice on
>>> the basis of unanimity or "rough consensus", or just provide input
>>> independently?
>>>
>>>  2. Should advisors restrict their role to responding to questions that
>>> have been flagged by the CCWG and routed through the chairs? Or should
>>> they/ can they flag issues they feel are important - weighed from their
>>> expertise.
>>>
>>>  On substance:
>>>
>>>  1. How is the accountability process taking stock of the evolving
>>> "global internet community", given that it is going to be driven by numbers
>>> from the  developing world?
>>>
>>>  2. Taking off from Q1, is the CCWG evaluating the future capacity of
>>> ICANN to be truly representative in the years to come?
>>>
>>>  arun
>>>
>>>  --
>>>   -
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>>> National Law University, New Delhi
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