[CCWG-ACCT] Meeting with CCWG Advisors
Kavouss Arasteh
kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Mon Mar 23 13:02:51 UTC 2015
thanks to all
I do nit believe that for every community we need to define modifier.
I am not in favour of copying and definition from any community
We should deal with each subject based on its merits snd in a case by case basis
Kavouss
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> On 22 Mar 2015, at 21:52, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> In ICANN, we do have modifiers before Consensus. And varying definitions depending on which of the SOAC or processes we are talking about.
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> In GNSO PDP processes we talk about Full Consensus versus Consensus and that definiton of Consensus is not all that diffferent from the IETF defintion of rough consensus; though we often use polls instead of humming to help figure out how to continue the discussion toward consensus.
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> The GNSO definition is different from the GAC deffintion which I wont presume to define.
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> And in defining ICANN Consensus Policy, we have yet another definition which often depends on voting thresholds.
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> Personally I find it hard to talk about Consensus in ICANN without using modifiers of some sort.
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> As for an ICG definition of Consensus, that is beyond my pay grade to try and fathom.
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> avri
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>> On 22-Mar-15 20:57, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> Some relevant questions and good reply.
>> I strongly oppose any adjustive before consensus whether it is " rough " or " Soft" or any thing else.
>> We are CCWG and not IETF.
>> In ICG that term even though proposed was abandonnned
>> Pls kindly do not interpret " CONSENSUS"
>> Regards
>> Kavouss
>>
>> 2015-03-22 19:18 GMT+01:00 Rahul Sharma <wisdom.stoic at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi Arun,
>>>
>>> Just thinking aloud on the substance pointer raised - can multistakholder model be evolved in a manner that ensures proportional representation in communities, forums, structures and Board. When I say proportional, I mean proportional to Internet population of the country.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rahul Sharma
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2015 at 15:04, Arun Sukumar <arun.sukumar at nludelhi.ac.in> wrote:
>>>> Valerie D'Costa, an advisor to the CCWG, raised a couple of interesting and important questions on process and substance. I hope this is a faithful reproduction.
>>>>
>>>> On process:
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>>>> 1. What should be the role of advisors? Should they offer advice on the basis of unanimity or "rough consensus", or just provide input independently?
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>>>> 2. Should advisors restrict their role to responding to questions that have been flagged by the CCWG and routed through the chairs? Or should they/ can they flag issues they feel are important - weighed from their expertise.
>>>>
>>>> On substance:
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>>>> 1. How is the accountability process taking stock of the evolving "global internet community", given that it is going to be driven by numbers from the developing world?
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>>>> 2. Taking off from Q1, is the CCWG evaluating the future capacity of ICANN to be truly representative in the years to come?
>>>>
>>>> arun
>>>>
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>>>> @arunmsukumar
>>>> Senior Fellow, Centre for Communication Governance
>>>> National Law University, New Delhi
>>>> Ph: +91-9871943272
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