[CCWG-ACCT] Please review regarding IAB comments on Mission Statement

Sun Nov 1 00:42:11 UTC 2015

Instead of support, would 'promote' be closer to what a multistakeholder
community expects of an ICANN?
RD
On Oct 31, 2015 5:56 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Would have added a +1 if mission was entirely made out of scope for the
> CCWG, but that is not the case as the IAB request is just one of the
> proposed edits of the mission statement. That said, I think the IAB's
> recommendation particularly have something to do with the transition since
> for the first time there will be a clearer process for any of the OCs to
> opt out of ICANN individually, It's therefore important the mission
> reflects that.
>
> I have some sympathy for Paul's concern on the word "support" and I think
> a better phrasing may be in order. That said, such phrasing should not give
> the impression that there is(or can be) really a central kill
> switch/control of the Internet as that is the impression the current
> mission may have implied politically.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Sent from my Asus Zenfone2
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> On 1 Nov 2015 05:37, "Roelof Meijer" <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> In my opinion, this has nothing to do with the IANA Stewardship Transition
>> nor the enhancement of ICANN¹s accountability.
>> We should not deal with this.
>> Moreover, the argument that this is (will become) a fundamental bylaw and
>> thus ³difficult to fix later² is incorrect. If the community feels that
>> something should be fixed here, it will be easier than it is now.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Roelof
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31-10-15 09:56, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on
>> behalf of Lyman Chapin" <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> on behalf of lyman at interisle.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Becky and CCWG members -
>> >
>> >Because the mission statement will be a fundamental bylaw - and therefore
>> >by design extremely difficult to "fix" later - the concern expressed by
>> >the IAB (and echoed by others during the Dublin meeting) is a lot more
>> >important than it might seem; it's not just a matter of preferring
>> >different words to describe roughly the same thing. ICANN's current
>> >mission statement is empirically incorrect; as a simple matter of fact,
>> >ICANN does not ³coordinate, at the overall level, the global Internet¹s
>> >system of unique identifiers.² Using the same empirical standard, the
>> >alternatives (to this and other parts of the mission statement) proposed
>> >by the IAB are factually accurate. On that basis alone it seems obvious
>> >that the CCWG should prefer the IAB's formulation to the one that stands
>> >in the current bylaws, or alternatively should work with the IAB to
>> >develop and mutually agree upon more accurate wording, and we recommend
>> >that it do so.
>> >
>> >- Lyman and Julie
>> >
>> >On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Burr, Becky wrote:
>> >
>> >> CCWG Members 
>> >>
>> >> The IAB has raised a significant concern about the Mission Statement,
>> >>which currently describes ICANN¹s role of coordinating the allocation
>> >>and assignment of the DNS¹ unique identifiers, including Protocol port
>> >>and parameter numbers.  As some of you may recall, in early comments
>> >>they suggested changing the word ³coordination² to ³support.²  WP2
>> >>discussed this and declined to modify the existing language in the
>> >>Bylaws, but provided an opportunity for the ASO, the Root Server
>> >>community, and the port/parameter community to provide their own
>> >>description of what policy ³coordination² would mean in each (i.e.,
>> >>names, numbers, root servers, protocol/parameters) context.
>> >>
>> >> Andrew Sullivan, Chair of IAB, has informed me that the IAB remains
>> >>very concerned about the Mission Statement.  According to Andrew (on
>> >>behalf of the IAB), ³the mission statement (including the chapeau) is
>> >>misleading, has caused us problems in the past, and has been false at
>> >>least since the end of the PSO [Protocol Supporting Organization] and
>> >>arguably before that. In particular, according to the IAB, ³ICANN does
>> >>not "coordinate, at the overall level, the global Internet's systems of
>> >>unique identifiers.²
>> >>
>> >> This issue was discussed in the Public Forum in Dublin, and Steve
>> >>Crocker expressed support for working to align ICANN¹s description of
>> >>its role in this area more precisely:
>> >>
>> >> ANDREW SULLIVAN: Hi, my name is Andrew Sullivan. And I'm chair of the
>> >>Internet Architecture Board. The mission of ICANN currently has text
>> >>that ICANN -- and I quote -- is to coordinate at the overall level, the
>> >>global Internet systems of unique identifiers. End quote. That's not
>> >>precisely true any more and hasn't been at least since the protocol
>> >>supporting organization disappeared from ICANN. I'm wondering whether
>> >>the Board is open to changing this part of the mission since it's open
>> >>anyway in the CCWG process?
>> >>
>> >> STEVE CROCKER: I think I'm the designated hitter here. Andrew, thank
>> >>you very much. There's been a somewhat uncomfortable disparity between
>> >>some of the words that we use to describe ourselves and some of the
>> >>words that our close friends use to describe us. We have -- and we've --
>> >>some of us have been paying attention for a while. The good news -- I
>> >>think it's extremely good news -- is that over the last relatively short
>> >>period of time, we have built a much stronger technical team, step one.
>> >>And step 2 is would are we have actually got them connected to the
>> >>communications process. Harder than I would have liked it to have been.
>> >>But it's now there. And it's been one of these behind the scenes things
>> >>of where we've been pressing. So I think that, going forward, we're
>> >>going to try to align our words in a more careful way. There's always a
>> >>lot of equities about how many words you use to describe yourself which,
>> >>you know. But I think some greater precision and adjustment of the
>> >>nuances is well in order.
>> >>
>> >> The IAB has provided some proposed text, which addresses the concerns
>> >>of its members.  I have attached a side-by-side comparison of (1) the
>> >>Existing Mission Statement; (2) the current CCWG proposal; and (3) the
>> >>IAB proposal.  I should note that the proposed changes appear to be more
>> >>dramatic than they actually are.  Most of the changes reflect moving the
>> >>language around.  The substantive changes include:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Current Bylaws/CCWG Proposal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> IAB Proposal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ICANN¹s mission is to ³coordinate, at the overall level, the global
>> >>Internet¹s system of unique identifiers²
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ICANN¹s mission is to ³support, at the overall level, core Internet
>> >>registries²
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ICANN coordinates the allocation and assignment of ³Domain Names
>> >>(forming a system referred to as ³DNS²)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ICANN coordinates the allocation and assignment of ³names in the root
>> >>zone of the Domain Name System (³DNS²)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ICANN coordinates the ³allocation and assignment of protocol port and
>> >>parameter numbers²
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ICANN ³collaborates with other bodies as appropriate to publish core
>> >>registries needed for the functioning of the Internet.²
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As indicated above, a more complete comparison is attached.  Given the
>> >>strength of the IAB¹s views on this point, I thought it was important to
>> >>raise this issue for discussion.
>> >>
>> >> Becky
>> >>
>> >> J. Beckwith Burr
>> >> Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer
>> >>
>> >> <IAB Proposed Mission Statement Changes 30
>> >>October.pdf>_______________________________________________
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