[CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] Homework from WP1 call on Fri 30-Oct

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Mon Nov 2 00:38:05 UTC 2015


Robin, I was not at this meeting, but if I had 
been, I would have reminded the group that the 7 
board members on which you base this distribution 
is NOT the entire board. There are an additional 
8 board members selected by the NomCom plus the 
CEO, and any new community mechanism cannot 
ignore that the SOs+ALAC are only part of the board.

There may be multiple ways of addressing this, 
but it is clear to me that one cannot base any 
new power structure on what is less than half of 
the current board. That would put 6/7ths of the 
power in the SOs which only have 6/16 of the current board.

I also note that you seem to have reverted to the 
pure voting percentages in the August proposal 
instead of the consensus model proposed in Dublin.

Alan



At 01/11/2015 06:10 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>Resending as some had a problem reading the file.  - Robin
>
>On Oct 30, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Steve.
>>
>>All, attached is an exploration of the option 
>>to provide 4 units to ASO, CCNSO, and GNSO + 2 
>>units to ALAC, as mirrored on the existing 
>>board structure.  The threshold percentages 
>>were taken from the 2nd draft proposal, and 
>>then just transposed into a pool of 14 weighted 
>>fractional units.   Suggestions for 
>>improvements and comments on this proposal are 
>>much appreciated.  (My additions are the 
>>comments in pink color in the attached document).
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Robin
>><alternative weights in Community Mechanism.docx>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Steve DelBianco wrote:
>>
>>>Attached is my �homework� assignment today 
>>>� reflecting split voting option for each 
>>>AC/SO to decide  whether to exercise a 
>>>community power.   I updated just the Appendix 
>>>that Jordan circulated for today�s call, 
>>>adding explanations and a new column on the 
>>>decision table (also shown below).
>>>
>>><Screen Shot 2015-10-30 at 5.16.33 PM.png>
>>>
>>>From: 
>>><<mailto:wp1-bounces at icann.org>wp1-bounces at icann.org> 
>>>on behalf of Jordan Carter
>>>Date: Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:06 AM
>>>To: "<mailto:wp1 at icann.org>wp1 at icann.org"
>>>Subject: [WP1] Pls Read - Agenda for Meeting - 
>>>WP1 on Fri 30 October at 18h UTC
>>>
>>>Hi all
>>>
>>>Our call is on Friday from 18h UTC, and may last up to two hours.
>>>
>>>The proposed agenda items are as follows. 
>>>PLEASE READ THIS AGENDA CAREFULLY as it sets 
>>>out how I propose we run the meeting and the 
>>>questions I propose we aim to answer.
>>>
>>>1. Review of Agenda
>>>
>>>2. Decision-making in the Community Mechanism
>>>This agenda item should look at 
>>>decision-making, and seeing where the WP sits 
>>>with key issues raised in the "Dublin Approach".
>>>
>>>To prepare for this item I suggest reading the following papers:
>>>- Community Decision-Making: The Dublin Approach Working Paper
>>>- Public Comment Analysis - Voting in the community mechanism
>>>
>>>If you have time, also have a look at the 
>>>staff analysis of public comments - the 
>>>"Model" and "Voting-Forum" tabs in particular.
>>>
>>>Papers attached or linked below. I have not 
>>>updated the Dublin Approach paper, but kept 
>>>the very valuable comments, and moved Robin's 
>>>added issues into separate rows in the Issues Table.
>>>
>>>My suggestion is that we deal with the 
>>>following specific questions, as they are the 
>>>key changes in the model compared with what we 
>>>presented in the Second Draft Proposal. We 
>>>should for each question identify whether we 
>>>have a consensus on them or whether we don't 
>>>-- so we can advise the full CCWG of WP1's views.
>>>
>>>a) Do we support the decision-making model (by 
>>>consensus) replacing the voting approach?
>>>
>>>b) Do we support only one view being expressed by each SO or AC?
>>>
>>>c) Do we support an equal say for each participating SO or AC?
>>>
>>>
>>>We also need to address the following:
>>>
>>>d) In our Third Draft Proposal, which SOs and 
>>>ACs do we propose should be participating? 
>>>that is, do we respect the SSAC's desire not 
>>>to, and do we take a view re RSSAC?
>>>
>>>e) Based on our answer to d), do we need to 
>>>make any changes to the numbers in the decision-making framework?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>3. Other Work Required by WP1
>>>I do not have a current list of work we need 
>>>to do in the next fortnight but believe this 
>>>will be clearer following next week's CCWG. I 
>>>welcome staff or co-chairs' input on this at 
>>>this point of the WP1 agenda, and of course suggestions from WP1 participants.
>>>
>>>4. Any Other Business
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Papers
>>>
>>>I attach PDFs of the Dublin Approach paper and 
>>>of the Public Comment report section on voting.
>>>
>>>The Dublin paper Google Doc is at: 
>>><<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zHZl_NvQ1WChatX8NT2Q1rQi4zQZgbrbAxrQSsH3tZQ/edit>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zHZl_NvQ1WChatX8NT2Q1rQi4zQZgbrbAxrQSsH3tZQ/edit>
>>>
>>>The full WP1 Public Comment is at: 
>>><<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56142506/2015-10-12-CCWG-WP1-SecondPC-FullAnalysis.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1444644438000&api=v2>https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56142506/2015-10-12-CCWG-WP1-SecondPC-FullAnalysis.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1444644438000&api=v2>
>>>
>>>You may also find the staff analysis of Public 
>>>Comments useful, which deals with voting 
>>>specifically in a couple of the tabs (Model 
>>>and Voting-Forum): 
>>><<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/54693137/PC2%20tool%20-%2024%20SeptBTv2.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1443208173000&api=v2>https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/54693137/PC2%20tool%20-%2024%20SeptBTv2.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1443208173000&api=v2>
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>Jordan
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jordan Carter
>>>
>>>Chief Executive
>>>InternetNZ
>>>
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>>>
>>>A better world through a better Internet
>>>
>>><Screen Shot 2015-10-30 at 5.16.33 
>>>PM.png><Dublin breakout on Community Decision 
>>>- split votes v1.pdf><Dublin breakout on 
>>>Community Decision - split votes 
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