[CCWG-ACCT] Please review regarding IAB comments on Mission Statement

Nigel Roberts nigel at channelisles.net
Mon Nov 2 10:03:25 UTC 2015


As you know, there's nothing in the below that I disagree with.

And as you also know, that despite the deal that was reached 10 years 
ago that enable ccTLDs to participate in ICANN (and in many ways, most 
successfully), there remains a historic trust issue that although no-one 
nowadays would impute bad faith to any ICANN Board Member or staff 
member, nonetheless "trust but verify" applies.

The real conundrum is whether the status quo is so undesirable that we 
should leap into the unknown without appropriate and adequate, 
enforceable accountability measures.


(* As Lenin put it "Доверяй, но проверяй")


On 02/11/15 09:13, Chris Disspain wrote:
> 😀.
>
> As you know I don't disagree with you regarding the conundrum of authority.
>
> My point, as you also know, is about timing and when to take on solving the problem from a ccTLD point of view. We built the ccNSO, around the current bylaw, in a way that enabled ccTLDs to join or not and to ensure that sovereignty was not affected by joining.
>
> I think that if the goal is to complete the transition in the timeframe then there will be a number of matters that cannot be dealt with in time. And I believe we are building a mechanism that will ensure those things can be dealt with.
>
> In any event, the right place to work on a 'ccTLD correct' mission bylaw is in the ccNSO, not in the CCWG.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris Disspain | Chief Executive Officer
> .au Domain Administration Ltd
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>
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>
>> On 2 Nov 2015, at 17:44, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
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>> Thank you for the expected excoriation, as foreseen.
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>> It has everthing to do with the accountability changes required for the transition.
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>> Paul's take on things, predictability, is that ICANN is, to use his words 'a primary head of power'.
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>> I disagree, and have asked for any legal foundation for this. Weinstein was quoted as a source of that authority which it isn't.
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>> The question remains, that once the apparent authority of NTIA has gone, what legal authority will ICANN have to affect the business, say, of any ccTLD .. and inextricably bound with authority, the obverse side of the coin is is what obligations will ICANN owe, and will it be accountable for them.
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>>> This has very little to do with accountability changes required for the transition.
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