[CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on Transparency Reforms for CCWG)

[Seun Ojedeji]

Hi,

Owning to the fact that whoever is given the role to carry out the SD paper
work cannot independently be conferred and exercise the inspection rights
without the community's directive then I can agree with Jordan on this,
although I sense it might be a fairly longer route but it's still fine.

That said, I am okay either way, inspection is just an act of providing
information to inform and also to probably decide if applicable. It may be
more straight forward to confer those to the community directly but noting
spoils it it's also requested/sent through the SD

Regards

Sent from my Asus Zenfone2
Kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 3 Nov 2015 06:44, "Jordan Carter" <jordan at internetnz.net.nz> wrote:

> The only thing I would like to add at this point is to query the point
> about granting such rights to individual SOs and ACs.
>
> The rights of a member, which we are analogising, would have given the
> inspection right to the community mechanism as sole member. The right would
> not have been able to be delegated to SOs and ACs in a legal sense. It was
> the abstraction of that right *away* from individual SOs and ACs, along
> with other statutory rights, which was part of the shift from multiple
> members to single members.
>
> It is not clear to me why we should, in WS1, do anything other than
> replicate what the member right would have been - to grant it to the
> community as a whole, as would have been the case with membership.
>
> For the rest, it should be WS2....
>
>
> cheers
> Jordan
>
>
> On 3 November 2015 at 10:24, Schaefer, Brett <Brett.Schaefer at heritage.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hence, my suggestion to focus on more defined, easily implemented
>> measures in WS1 that would address the concerns of those calling for more
>> transparency measures in WS1, while leaving the more complicated matters to
>> WS2 with a specific commitment to follow through.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Brett Schaefer
>> Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs
>> Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National
>> Security and Foreign Policy
>> The Heritage Foundation
>> 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE
>> Washington, DC 20002
>> 202-608-6097
>> heritage.org
>>
>> *From:* Burr, Becky [mailto:Becky.Burr at neustar.biz]
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:22 PM
>>
>> *To:* Schaefer, Brett; Steve DelBianco; kdrazek at verisign.com; Alan
>> Greenberg
>> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> Agree, but our time constraints are significant
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Beckwith Burr
>>
>> Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *<Schaefer>, Brett <Brett.Schaefer at heritage.org>
>> *Date: *Monday, November 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM
>> *To: *Becky Burr <becky.burr at neustar.biz>, Steve DelBianco <
>> sdelbianco at netchoice.org>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com>, Alan
>> Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> *Cc: *Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *RE: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> Becky,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am referring to the more recent discussion that arose form the move
>> from membership to designator. Even so, there is no opposition expressed
>> that I have seen to the pursuit of these goals in principle, just in terms
>> of our time constraints.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Brett
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *BrettSchaefer*
>>
>> * Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs
>> Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security
>> and Foreign Policy*
>> The Heritage Foundation
>> 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE
>> Washington, DC 20002
>> 202-608-6097
>> heritage.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__heritage.org_&d=CwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=ns0EKaZMgPYtzk_eoqXWtkY71iI_xOFXK_CY5TLfgSY&s=2L5fXhaVij06ISnz3kqV5AkYb_p2E-QIRZmpKMBJVS0&e=>
>>
>> *From:* Burr, Becky [mailto:Becky.Burr at neustar.biz
>> <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:44 PM
>> *To:* Schaefer, Brett; Steve DelBianco; kdrazek at verisign.com; Alan
>> Greenberg
>> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> Review and enhancement of DIDP has been a WS2 item for months.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Beckwith Burr
>>
>> Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *<Schaefer>, Brett <Brett.Schaefer at heritage.org>
>> *Date: *Monday, November 2, 2015 at 1:06 PM
>> *To: *Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco at netchoice.org>, Keith Drazek <
>> kdrazek at verisign.com>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> *Cc: *Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> That said, in the general discussion, I haven’t seen any real opposition
>> to the call for: (1) granting the right of inspection to the SD or to the
>> individual SOs/ACs; (2) improving the DIDP process; and (3) requiring ICANN
>> to disclose its contacts with government to influence policy and the
>> expenditures for that purpose.
>>
>>
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