[CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on Transparency Reforms for CCWG)

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Mon Nov 2 23:56:33 UTC 2015


Agree.  Alan 
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On November 2, 2015 9:43:53 PM GMT+00:00, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
>The only thing I would like to add at this point is to query the point
>about granting such rights to individual SOs and ACs.
>
>The rights of a member, which we are analogising, would have given the
>inspection right to the community mechanism as sole member. The right
>would
>not have been able to be delegated to SOs and ACs in a legal sense. It
>was
>the abstraction of that right *away* from individual SOs and ACs, along
>with other statutory rights, which was part of the shift from multiple
>members to single members.
>
>It is not clear to me why we should, in WS1, do anything other than
>replicate what the member right would have been - to grant it to the
>community as a whole, as would have been the case with membership.
>
>For the rest, it should be WS2....
>
>
>cheers
>Jordan
>
>
>On 3 November 2015 at 10:24, Schaefer, Brett
><Brett.Schaefer at heritage.org>
>wrote:
>
>> Hence, my suggestion to focus on more defined, easily implemented
>measures
>> in WS1 that would address the concerns of those calling for more
>> transparency measures in WS1, while leaving the more complicated
>matters to
>> WS2 with a specific commitment to follow through.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Brett Schaefer
>> Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory
>Affairs
>> Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National
>Security
>> and Foreign Policy
>> The Heritage Foundation
>> 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE
>> Washington, DC 20002
>> 202-608-6097
>> heritage.org
>>
>> *From:* Burr, Becky [mailto:Becky.Burr at neustar.biz]
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 4:22 PM
>>
>> *To:* Schaefer, Brett; Steve DelBianco; kdrazek at verisign.com; Alan
>> Greenberg
>> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> Agree, but our time constraints are significant
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Beckwith Burr
>>
>> Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *<Schaefer>, Brett <Brett.Schaefer at heritage.org>
>> *Date: *Monday, November 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM
>> *To: *Becky Burr <becky.burr at neustar.biz>, Steve DelBianco <
>> sdelbianco at netchoice.org>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com>, Alan
>> Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> *Cc: *Accountability Community
><accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *RE: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> Becky,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am referring to the more recent discussion that arose form the move
>from
>> membership to designator. Even so, there is no opposition expressed
>that I
>> have seen to the pursuit of these goals in principle, just in terms
>of our
>> time constraints.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Brett
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *BrettSchaefer*
>>
>> * Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory
>Affairs
>> Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National
>Security
>> and Foreign Policy*
>> The Heritage Foundation
>> 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE
>> Washington, DC 20002
>> 202-608-6097
>> heritage.org
>>
><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__heritage.org_&d=CwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=ns0EKaZMgPYtzk_eoqXWtkY71iI_xOFXK_CY5TLfgSY&s=2L5fXhaVij06ISnz3kqV5AkYb_p2E-QIRZmpKMBJVS0&e=>
>>
>> *From:* Burr, Becky [mailto:Becky.Burr at neustar.biz
>> <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 3:44 PM
>> *To:* Schaefer, Brett; Steve DelBianco; kdrazek at verisign.com; Alan
>> Greenberg
>> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> Review and enhancement of DIDP has been a WS2 item for months.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Beckwith Burr
>>
>> Deputy General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *<Schaefer>, Brett <Brett.Schaefer at heritage.org>
>> *Date: *Monday, November 2, 2015 at 1:06 PM
>> *To: *Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco at netchoice.org>, Keith Drazek <
>> kdrazek at verisign.com>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> *Cc: *Accountability Community
><accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Transparency recap (Was: Contribution on
>> Transparency Reforms for CCWG)
>>
>>
>>
>> That said, in the general discussion, I haven’t seen any real
>opposition
>> to the call for: (1) granting the right of inspection to the SD or to
>the
>> individual SOs/ACs; (2) improving the DIDP process; and (3) requiring
>ICANN
>> to disclose its contacts with government to influence policy and the
>> expenditures for that purpose.
>>
>>
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