[CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position

[Greg Shatan]

Paul,

It hasn't even been a year so far.  It only feels like two.

Greg

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <
paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:

> Oh goody … two more years of CCWG meetings! J
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> *From:* Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, November 6, 2015 12:09 PM
> *To:* Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com>
> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position
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> Or alternatively, one last massive push to put all things WS2 into WS1.
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> Further, any doubts about WS2 destabilize WS1 recommendations that have
> WS2 dependencies.
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> No matter how you slice it, WS2 is a necessary part of the overall CCWG
> work plan and removing it has several consequences, and I can't think of
> any that are good.
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> Greg
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> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
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> Likewise. Without assurance that the CCWG will persist to pursue WS2
> accountability matters there is a high likelihood of dissipation of focused
> effort and mission failure.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Wilson,
> Christopher
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 11:05 AM
> To: Malcolm Hutty; Nigel Roberts; accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position
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> Agree.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Malcolm
> Hutty
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 6:32 AM
> To: Nigel Roberts; accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position
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> On 05/11/2015 19:59, Nigel Roberts wrote:
> > I find this helpful. Well done.
> >
> > I do have some small reservations about the final para which reads
> > "May we therefore ask the Board to formally commit to honoring WS2
> > recommendations?"
> >
> > They can commit all they like. But what matters is whether there is
> > any enforceability (to borrow a term from a source I respect) should a
> > future Board not live up to the committments of the present Board.
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> > So I would hope the Board would answer with HOW they would guarantee
> > their commitment (which, in good faith, I believe to be indubitable
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> Actually, I think the point that has been brought into question is not
> whether the Board commit nor whether it is enforceable, but whether that
> line of work would be pursued through the CCWG or whether it will be
> dispersed.
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> Concerns have been expressed that dispersal will result in dissipation,
> and that closing the CCWG will remove the only or most effective mechanism
> to pursue WS2. Previously, we believe we had assurance that
> WS2 would continue; more recently, the Board has introduced a suggestion
> that that might not be the case.
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> So what we should be seeking to have confirmed is the Board's commitment
> that this CCWG may continue to exist for the purpose of developing plans
> and overseeing the implementation of WS2, and that the Board will continue
> to co-operate with the CCWG during that process.
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> Malcolm.
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