[CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position

Fri Nov 6 20:38:47 UTC 2015

Oh goody … two more years of CCWG meetings! :)

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From: Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com] 
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Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Work Stream 2 - Board position

Or alternatively, one last massive push to put all things WS2 into WS1.

Further, any doubts about WS2 destabilize WS1 recommendations that have WS2 dependencies.

No matter how you slice it, WS2 is a necessary part of the overall CCWG work plan and removing it has several consequences, and I can't think of any that are good.

Greg

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com <mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com> > wrote:

Likewise. Without assurance that the CCWG will persist to pursue WS2 accountability matters there is a high likelihood of dissipation of focused effort and mission failure.

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Agree.

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On 05/11/2015 19:59, Nigel Roberts wrote:
> I find this helpful. Well done.
>
> I do have some small reservations about the final para which reads
> "May we therefore ask the Board to formally commit to honoring WS2
> recommendations?"
>
> They can commit all they like. But what matters is whether there is
> any enforceability (to borrow a term from a source I respect) should a
> future Board not live up to the committments of the present Board.
>
> So I would hope the Board would answer with HOW they would guarantee
> their commitment (which, in good faith, I believe to be indubitable

Actually, I think the point that has been brought into question is not whether the Board commit nor whether it is enforceable, but whether that line of work would be pursued through the CCWG or whether it will be dispersed.

Concerns have been expressed that dispersal will result in dissipation, and that closing the CCWG will remove the only or most effective mechanism to pursue WS2. Previously, we believe we had assurance that
WS2 would continue; more recently, the Board has introduced a suggestion that that might not be the case.

So what we should be seeking to have confirmed is the Board's commitment that this CCWG may continue to exist for the purpose of developing plans and overseeing the implementation of WS2, and that the Board will continue to co-operate with the CCWG during that process.

Malcolm.

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