[CCWG-ACCT] Status of summary document

Thu Nov 12 16:45:34 UTC 2015

No, they don't, in fact.

It's intentional.

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> On 12 Nov 2015, at 18:18, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
> 
> Indeed. Agree 100%.
> 
> As one Government type put it to me in Dublin, off the record ...
> 
> "they SERIOUSLY expect that any substantive work is done in the public sector over the Christmas period????"
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/12/2015 04:07 PM, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
>> I agree with Phil's reasoning as to why any extension is required.
>> 
>> However, given that the public comment period would span the holiday
>> season, I would suggest that public comment not close until Friday 8th
>> January.
>> 
>> This will materially relieve any criticism that we have made it
>> unreasonably difficult for comments to be assembled by choosing dates
>> that co-incide with the holiday season, without causing any significant
>> additional delay.
>> 
>> Malcolm.
>> 
>>> On 12/11/2015 15:32, Phil Corwin wrote:
>>> On one hand I am relieved to see this as I was planning to post an email
>>> today urging the Co-Chairs to either postpone issuance of the Executive
>>> Summary until there was actually a completed final Proposal to
>>> summarize, or to relabel it so that it would be clear that it was not a
>>> document reflecting final resolutions of key issues on which formal
>>> comments could be based. You have taken the second course and chosen to
>>> label it as “Formal Update on our progress in and after the Dublin meeting”.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, this decision now makes clear that the length of the
>>> public comment period is inadequate. In the CCWG’s October 22^nd
>>>  Statement
>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/blog/cross-community-working-group-on-enhancing-icann-accountability-icann54-co-chairs-statement>
>>> this appears:
>>> 
>>> The current timeline proposes posting a high-level overview of
>>> recommendations and a summary of changes from the 2nd Draft Proposal for
>>> a 35-day public comment on 15 November 2015. Alongside the 35-day public
>>> comment, the CCWG-Accountability will submit these resources to the
>>> Chartering Organizations for initial feedback. The CCWG-Accountability
>>> plans to issue a full detailed report, including annexes and in-depth
>>> documentation, mid-way into the public comment period for roughly 20
>>> days of consultation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A Formal Update cannot legitimately be the basis of either public
>>> comment or informed feedback from the Chartering organizations. Thus it
>>> is clear that there is really only a 21-day public comment period under
>>> the current timetable, starting with the November 30 release of the 3^rd
>>> draft Proposal, if the current target of December 21 is adhered to. This
>>> is inadequate for a matter of this importance and complexity, and
>>> considering the major differences between the Member and Designator models..
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Therefore I again urge the CCWG to extend the public comment period
>>> deadline to at least December 30 to permit a 30-day comment period,
>>> which should be the minimum requirement in this case.*
>>> 
>>> * *
>>> 
>>> Lastly, I do not think that the issuance of a Formal Update obviates the
>>> need for an Executive Summary to accompany the 3^rd draft proposal. Such
>>> a Summary could be extremely useful in assisting the community in
>>> understanding the document, particularly by explaining how the key
>>> remaining issues were resolved.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for consideration of my views.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of
>>> *Mathieu Weill
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:22 AM
>>> *To:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] Status of summary document
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The activity on the list has been very intense lately. As co-chairs we
>>> would like to warmly thank all commenters on the recent documents. The
>>> feedbacks were extremely helpful, whether on substance or format, and
>>> our support team is working hard to take your feedback in account for
>>> the updated version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You will remember that a lot of concerns were raised that what the CCWG
>>> is working on is difficult to understand for those who are not following
>>> the groups intense work. In response to that, we have discussed and
>>> agreed we would publish a document explaining in plain language what we
>>> are doing. We have factored this into the agreed plan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At the time, we had expected to having reached consensus on all
>>> remaining questions. As this is not the case today, we suggest flagging
>>> this accordingly and move forward with the publication of the document,
>>> which we would call a *Formal Update on our progress in and after the
>>> Dublin meeting*, rather than an executive summary.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Many of you have correctly stated that the document we shared with you
>>> is not an executive summary due to its length. It is rather a short
>>> version of our report without offering information on the rationale for
>>> decisions and the genesis of our recommendation. This level of detail
>>> will be found in our report. We have, however, added a 2 page abstract
>>> in addition to incorporating a plethora of your suggestions to make this
>>> document accurate, more accessible and shorter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To be clear:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The document that we are planning to issue on Nov 15 is designed to
>>> update the community on the progress we have made during and after ICANN
>>> 54. Its goal is to raise awareness of where we are, what our proposals
>>> are, so that outreach can start and consideration of our final report
>>> (announced for Nov 30th) can take place in a shorter time frame.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While the content of the document would reflect the positions of our
>>> group, closing outstanding issues is not a requirement before issuing
>>> this formal update. Outstanding issues will be flagged as such. What is
>>> needed is a high level summary, as well as some level of detail
>>> regarding the topics we made progress on in Dublin : decision making,
>>> sole designator model, budget, individual director removal, and human
>>> rights.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Our public comment period will then focus on soliciting feedback on
>>> these changes in order to avoid the duplication of efforts for
>>> commenters on areas of our report that already enjoyed broad support.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With the full report, we will offer the opportunity to publish minority
>>> statements.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We do hope that you find these clarifications and suggestions helpful.
>>> We will circulate the next version of the Update within the next 12
>>> hours, and the discussion of the document will be on the agenda of our
>>> call on Friday 13 November, at 6.00 UTC.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks again to all of you for your continued commitment.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thomas, Leon and Mathieu
>>> 
>>> Co-chairs
>>> 
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