[CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding Mission and Contract

[Burr, Becky]

I share Keith’s confusion.  Just where are we?

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From: <Drazek>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 10:00 AM
To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net<mailto:malcolm at linx.net>>
Cc: Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding Mission and Contract

Apologies, but is this where we left off on the wordsmithing?  Is Milton correct that we’re closer than I thought? Is it just a matter of resolving the definition around “services?”

Thanks,
Keith

From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:11 PM
To: Malcolm Hutty
Cc: Accountability Cross Community
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding Mission and Contract

I'm not looking for a technical definition -- rather a practical definition.  Actually, I asked for examples, so a definition may not be necessary, as long as the examples offer sufficient clarity.

It's important that when the CCWG/Commenters/SOs/ACs/etc. look at the word "services" (or the word services plus some exemplars), they all see the same thing.

Otherwise, we are like "The Six Blind Men and the Elephant" (apologies for culturally-specific, archaic and politically incorrect reference; please note as a counterbalance that I am a member of the CCWG-Accessibility, seeking to improve web access (and ICANN access) for people with disabilities).

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net<mailto:malcolm at linx.net>> wrote:
On 11/11/2015 18:33, Greg Shatan wrote:
> Malcolm,
>
> Thanks for your reply.  I took those terms from an email you wrote, but
> clearly did not apply it quite correctly.  It's critically important to
> get clarity here, and drilling down and getting concrete examples is
> extremely helpful.
>
> What are a few examples of what you mean when you say "web service" and
> "other services"?


On 11/11/2015 18:55, Greg Shatan wrote:
> I am trying to get to a concrete and shared understanding of what this
> proposal means when it says "services."  Based on the varying responses
> in this and earlier threads, we're not there yet.

I can't see my stumbling attempts to provide a technical definition
helping this discussion. I'll write to you privately.

Perhaps Andrew can do better than me, or point us to a formal definition
of a service? Has the IETF produced such a thing?

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