[CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding Mission and Contract

[Greg Shatan]

All,


I would like to suggest the following alternative, in the hopes that it can
be a broadly acceptable formulation, and thread the needle on some of the
discussions we've been having.



ICANN shall act strictly in accordance with, and only as reasonably
appropriate to achieve its Mission.  Without limiting the foregoing:


   - ICANN shall not impose regulations on:
   - services (i.e., the software processes by which commands received via
      the Internet are processed and a response is generated and
transmitted via
      the Internet, to be viewed in a web browser, email client, or the like)
      which use the Internet’s unique identifiers, or
      - the content that such services carry or provide
   - ICANN shall have the ability to enter into and enforce agreements with
   contracted parties, in furtherance of its Mission.

Your thoughts would be most appreciated.


Greg




On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz> wrote:

> I share Keith’s confusion.  Just where are we?
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> From: <Drazek>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 10:00 AM
> To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net
> >
> Cc: Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
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> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding
> Mission and Contract
>
> Apologies, but is this where we left off on the wordsmithing?  Is Milton
> correct that we’re closer than I thought? Is it just a matter of resolving
> the definition around “services?”
>
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>
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> *From:* accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [
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> <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Greg
> Shatan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:11 PM
> *To:* Malcolm Hutty
> *Cc:* Accountability Cross Community
> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Attempt to summarize discussion regarding
> Mission and Contract
>
>
>
> I'm not looking for a technical definition -- rather a practical
> definition.  Actually, I asked for examples, so a definition may not be
> necessary, as long as the examples offer sufficient clarity.
>
>
>
> It's important that when the CCWG/Commenters/SOs/ACs/etc. look at the word
> "services" (or the word services plus some exemplars), they all see the
> same thing.
>
>
>
> Otherwise, we are like "The Six Blind Men and the Elephant" (apologies for
> culturally-specific, archaic and politically incorrect reference; please
> note as a counterbalance that I am a member of the CCWG-Accessibility,
> seeking to improve web access (and ICANN access) for people with
> disabilities).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:
>
> On 11/11/2015 18:33, Greg Shatan wrote:
> > Malcolm,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.  I took those terms from an email you wrote, but
> > clearly did not apply it quite correctly.  It's critically important to
> > get clarity here, and drilling down and getting concrete examples is
> > extremely helpful.
> >
> > What are a few examples of what you mean when you say "web service" and
> > "other services"?
>
>
> On 11/11/2015 18:55, Greg Shatan wrote:
> > I am trying to get to a concrete and shared understanding of what this
> > proposal means when it says "services."  Based on the varying responses
> > in this and earlier threads, we're not there yet.
>
> I can't see my stumbling attempts to provide a technical definition
> helping this discussion. I'll write to you privately.
>
> Perhaps Andrew can do better than me, or point us to a formal definition
> of a service? Has the IETF produced such a thing?
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