[CCWG-ACCT] Fake astonishment towards a false interpretation

Sat Nov 14 22:28:03 UTC 2015

Your accusation that my reaction to your post is "fake" and "invented is
insulting in the extreme.  I have already had one friend lose a colleague
in the atrocities, and learned that a close family friend would have been
at the Bataclan last night but for a change of plans.  I assure you that my
reaction to your post as a response to a message about the Paris attacks is
completely and utterly genuine.

To say that I and my colleagues have done something offensive borders on
the deeply disturbed.

I don't know what sick game you've come here to play, or what "cheap
thrill" you get out of your interventions, but it has no place here.  We
have work to do.

I hope that our co-chairs and the Ombudsman will take swift and permanent
action to ban Mr. Baione.  Indeed, I would go so far as to suggest a ban
from all ICANN working groups, as he is clearly incorrigible.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Ron Baione via
Accountability-Cross-Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
wrote:

> Roelof, Greg and Megan:
>
> Your invented astonishment at your own false reinterpretation of my
> relevant, sourced and researched response to Michael's topic, and your
> general lack of want to help create a better whistleblower process for
> ICANN, would be more offensive if your fake astonishment was genuine.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron
>
> ------------------------------
> * From: * Megan.Richards at ec.europa.eu <Megan.Richards at ec.europa.eu>;
> * To: * <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>;
> * Cc: * <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>;
> * Subject: * Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Mr. Baione
> * Sent: * Sat, Nov 14, 2015 9:10:33 PM
>
> Indeed. Agree with Roelof, Greg and I suspect all others who find this
> inappropriate and offensive in the face of such wanton destruction of human
> lives.
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typing errors
>
> On 14 Nov 2015, at 18:06, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1.  It 's bizarre and offensive for this to be posted in response to the
> atrocities in Paris, on the slender connection that an external
> whistleblower process for ICANN could lead to world peace.
>
> On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear co-chairs,
>>
>> After having looked at both the subject and the content, I strongly
>> suggest that Mr. Baione’s “come-back” is followed by a second but now
>> definite expulsion from the list.
>> He has obviously no intention at all to behave differently.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Roelof Meijer
>>
>> From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of "
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org" <
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Reply-To: Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>
>> Date: zaterdag 14 november 2015 15:59
>> To: Contact - Https Card - Internet Identity Card <contact at httpscard.com>,
>> "accountability-cross-community at icann.org" <
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Paris Terrorist Attack
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I have been asking for the creation of an external whistleblower process
>> to be added to workstream 2 discussions.
>>
>> The hopeful addition of an external whistleblower process in WorkStream 2
>> can be an additional and useful support line for the providing of important
>> information from ICANN members to legally designated human rights
>> organizations, so that if ICANN members feel pressured or intimidated in
>> any way after the transition process is completed, multiple support
>> mechanisms can be available, included into ICANN's transition proposal, and
>> acting as a deterrance to all nefarious activity.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> I am a hypothetical board member and in the post transition process
>> someone tries to influence my ICANN votes and decisions with various
>> intimidation tactics such as blackmail, instead of calling the current
>> ICANN whisleblower "phone-line" or one of the entities listed above, I
>> could instead call one of five randomly selected human rights organizations
>> to get the word out to the greater internet community, a legally sanctioned
>> process which would prevent an over-reliance on websites like "wikileaks".
>> Such a deterrant to nefarious activity could last for as many decades as it
>> takes to achieve world peace.
>>
>> Here is a link to the speeches and agenda from the recent 2nd Annual
>> Ethos and Profession of Intelligence Conference, co-hosted by the Central
>> Intelligence Agency on October 27, 2015. These speeches are given by
>> relevant and supporting experts who make up one prominent line of support
>> against nefarious activity, experts speak from the United States and
>> elsewhere, speeches which I believe lend indirect support for additional
>> legal whistleblower support mechanisms, as I have proposed:
>>
>> https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-bQ6_vfcE0793TlEHtB-5UAGltlwJrRu
>>
>> "Conference Agenda
>>
>> Opening Remarks [9:00am - 9:20am]
>> John Brennan, Director, Central Intelligence Agency
>>
>> 21st Century Challenges: Denied Areas, Digital Domains, and Determined
>> Adversaries
>> [9:20am-10:20am]
>> Gwen Ifill (moderator) - Moderator and Managing editor of Washington
>> Week; Co-Anchor and Managing Editor, PBS NewsHour
>> John Brennan - Director, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
>> Adm. Mike Rogers - Commander, US Cyber Command; Director, National
>> Security Agency (NSA), Chief, Central Security Service
>> Robert Cardillo - Director, National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
>> Doug Wise - Deputy Director, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
>> 21st Century Warning: What Should Policymakers Reasonably Expect?
>> [10:20am-11:20am]
>> David Cohen (Moderator) - Deputy Director, CIA
>> Michèle Flournoy - Co-Founder and CEO, Center for a New American
>> Security; Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (former)
>> Chris Kojm - Visiting Professor, Practice of International Affairs, The
>> George Washington University
>> Gregory Treverton - Chairman, National Intelligence Council (NIC)
>> Remarks [1:00pm - 1:05pm]
>> Dr. Steven Knapp - President, The George Washington University
>>
>> Keynote Address [1:05pm - 1:30pm]
>> James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence
>>
>> Bridging 20th Century Law and 21st Century Intelligence [1:30pm - 2:30pm]
>> Ken Wainstein (Moderator) - Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP; Homeland
>> Security Advisor, White House (former)
>> Orin Kerr - Fred C. Stevenson Research Professor of Law, The George
>> Washington University
>> Caroline Krass - General Counsel, CIA
>> David Kris - General Counsel, Intellectual Ventures; Assistant Attorney
>> General for National Security (former)
>> Benjamin Wittes - Senior Fellow in Governance Studies, Brookings
>> Institution
>> 21st Century Intelligence Officers: What Capabilities Do They Need to
>> Fulfill the Mission? [2:30pm - 3:30pm]
>> Dr. Mike Vickers (Moderator) - Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence
>> (former)
>> Glenn Gaffney - Associate Director for Talent, CIA
>> Evan Burfield - Co-Founder and Co-CEO, 1776
>> Diana Burley -
>> Executive Director and Chair, Institute for Information Infrastructure
>> Protection (I3P); Professor, Human and Organizational Learning, The George
>> Washington University
>> Andrew Hallman - Deputy Director, Digital Innovation, CIA
>> The Shared 21st Century International Mission - Partners in Security
>> [4:00pm - 5:00pm]
>> David Ignatius (Moderator) -
>> Associate Editor and Columnist, The Washington Post
>> Yaakov Amirdror - Anne and Greg Rosshandler Senior Fellow, Begin-Sadat
>> Center for Strategic Studies; Distinguished Fellow, Jewish Institute for
>> National Security Affairs, Israeli National Security Advisor (former)
>> Bernard Bajolet - Director, French Directorate General for External
>> Security (DGSE)
>> John Brennan - Director, CIA
>> John Sawers - Partner and Chairman, Macro Advisory Partners; Chief,
>> Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) (former)
>> Closing Remarks [5:00pm - 5:20pm]
>> Judge William Webster, Director CIA (former), Director Federal Bureau of
>> Investigation (former)"
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *Contact - Https Card - Internet Identity Card <
>> contact at httpscard.com>;
>> *To: *<accountability-cross-community at icann.org>;
>> *Subject: *[CCWG-ACCT] Paris Terrorist Attack
>> *Sent: *Sat, Nov 14, 2015 2:18:06 PM
>>
>> As I 'm french and I live in Paris,
>>
>> I would like to thank all the people who support us after the terrorist
>> attacks yesterday...
>>
>> My heart and my thoughts are with all the victims and their families.
>>
>> We will never forget and never forgive!
>>
>> Michael Benaudis
>> President
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>> Official IIC: https://www.httpscard.com/michaelbenaudis/
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