[CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Miss ion statement)

[Alan Greenberg]

That is your explanation, not mine...

At 21/11/2015 09:57 PM, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:

>I don't disagre....  we go too fast
>
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>Saturday, 21 November 2015, 09:43PM -05:00 from Alan Greenberg 
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>:
>
>And I continue to be very troubled that in haste, we may put into 
>words, Bylaws that ultimately prevent ICANN from doing its legitimate business.
>Alan
>At 21/11/2015 10:35 AM, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
>
>>I agree with Malcolm.  I continue to be very troubled that we 
>>cannot put into words this very fundamental concept.  All agree 
>>there are some limited circumstances when ICANN can and should be 
>>allowed to impose restrictions on activity through contract.   All 
>>agree that there are many other circumstances in which that sort of 
>>action by ICANN would be illegitimate.  The Board's proposal seems 
>>to leave the question open to later interpretation and for that 
>>reason I don't favor it -- but I also think it is imperative that 
>>some definitional language be hammered out .... without it the 
>>entire premise of IRP review and a limited ICANN mission founders.
>>Paul
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>>Friday, 20 November 2015, 07:52PM -05:00 from Malcolm Hutty 
>><<https://e-aj.my.com///e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3amalcolm@linx.net>malcolm at linx.net>:
>>
>>
>>On 20 Nov 2015, at 21:39, Andrew Sullivan 
>><<https://e-aj.my.com//compose?To=ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> 
>>ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 03:54:09PM -0500, David Post wrote:
>> >> This is a good example - can ICANN shut down my domain as part of its
>> >> "collaboration with anti-abuse people"?
>> >
>> > Unless you&apos;re a TLD, ICANN can&apos;t shut down your domain 
>> anyway (at
>> > least not without taking a whole bunch of other people out), so if
>> > that&apos;s all we&apos;re talking about it&apos;s not a problem.
>>On the contrary, ICANN can and does cause Registries to shut down 
>>some registrants&apos; domains (by requiring them to redelegate it 
>>to another person without the initial registrants&apos; consent).
>>We are arguing about the scope of circumstances in which ICANN 
>>should be permitted to do this. Constraining the range of 
>>circumstances is the entire point of this clause.
>>
>>Malcolm.
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