[CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement)

[Christopher Wilkinson]

Greg, Paul:

Your coded exchanges are incomprehensible to most of us. What are you trying to achieve?

As already noted, I think we have collectively demonstrated that this topic is out of scope for CCWG.

CW


On 22 Nov 2015, at 23:17, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:

> Sorry Greg.  We had that consensus earlier.   Your representation of your constituency doesn't change that.  If we reach a new consensus that's great.  If not however your minority dissent doesn't change the historical facts.
> 
> Paul
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> Paul
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> Sunday, 22 November 2015, 05:12PM -05:00 from Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>:
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> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:02 AM, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
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> If we can’t come to agreement on alternative wording then we have to default back to the existing text that was in the 2nd draft report.
> 
> ​GS: I disagree with this statement.  I think the recent discussions have shown substantial ambiguities and areas of dispute around the meaning, scope, explanation, and interpretation​ ​of the text in the second draft report.
> 
> Furthermore, we have moved beyond the second draft language in our deliberations.  I think that some of the changes to the second draft language have had fairly broad support and there is no reason to throw those advances out.
> 
> At the very least, I think we would need an explicit call for consensus to determine the current level of support for the second draft language.
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> Even if we want to consider reverting back to the second draft language, there's no reason to say that we have to do so.
> 
> Greg
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> 
> 
> -jg
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> From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday 22 November 2015 at 1:55 p.m.
> To: Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com>
> Cc: "accountability-cross-community at icann.org" <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Board comments on the Mission statement)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A lot has been said, there has been examples and counter examples as well. Could you share at least one example that has survived being countered and most importantly a mission wording that will adequately address that example.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sent from my Asus Zenfone2
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> 
> On 22 Nov 2015 00:42, "Paul Rosenzweig" <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
> Yes but there have been many such examples already e.g. Melton 5 minutes ago.  We are already in the drafting.  So this seems a bit retrograde mo?
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> Paul
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> Saturday, 21 November 2015, 05:13PM -06:00 from Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>:
> 
> Hello Paul,
> 
> >>   I read the concerns about the restriction clause as suggesting that it be deleted (perhaps I am wrong in this) 
> 
> No- we didn’t say that a restriction clause should be deleted. 
> 
> We said:
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> " The Board asks that the CCWG provide some examples of what the
> CCWG believes that ICANN should and should not be able to do.
> That information can then be provided to counsel to see if text can be
> drafted to address the broader concerns."
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bruce Tonkin
> 
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