[CCWG-ACCT] Notes-Recordings-Transcript links for WP1 Meeting | 22 November

Mon Nov 23 21:42:25 UTC 2015

hi Julie

Yes, that is a good point.

More precisely formulated, and as discussed on the WP1 calls yesterday,
this is what I mean:

"When the new accountability system is put in place, the Bylaws will
provide for a certain list of SOs and ACs to be able to register their
preferences which count towards decisions about using or not using the
powers.

"These are labelled, for want of a better term, *decisional participants*.

"Those SOs and ACs that are decisional participants will be able to express
their support for or objection to the use of a power, or express no view at
all, and their views will be considered in deciding whether the threshold
to exercise a power is reached.

"Any other SO and AC and indeed any other person will be able to register a
view through the Community Forum about the use of any community power. They
just won't have the right to have their views counted in making decisions
about the use of a power.

"The Decisional Participants will need to be listed in the bylaws and so
will need to be specified in the Third Draft Report. If a named SO and AC
the CCWG identifies as Decisional does not wish to be, they will need to
say so in their response to the report.

"In such a case, a supplementary report would need to be prepared for
Chartering Organisations with a changed list of Decisional Participants.
Our current Third Draft Report also identifies that in such a case, the
voting thresholds may need to be reconsidered."

I hope this helps

best
Jordan

On 24 November 2015 at 10:37, Julie Hammer <julie.hammer at bigpond.com> wrote:

> Hi Jordan,
>
> It might be an idea to use very precise language when making this request
> for confirmation from SO/ACs.  For example, SSAC has stated that it does
> not wish to take on any role in *exercising community powers*, but will
> continue to *provide its input* on security and stability aspects in a
> purely advisory capacity (ie *participate*).  This may take the form of
> providing such advice in the Community Forum, with the objective that the
> community be able to judge that advice on its merits and take it into
> consideration in its decision making.
>
> Cheers,  Julie
>
>
> On 24 Nov 2015, at 7:01 AM, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz>
> wrote:
>
> hi Greg,
>
> Yes, that's the idea...
>
> best
> Jordan
>
>
> On 23 November 2015 at 08:49, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry I was unable to make the WP-1 call today.  Can someone clarify what
>> this means?
>>
>> ACTION ITEM: CoChairs to request that SO/AC
>> confirmation of participation be sent along with input on
>> third draft proposal
>>
>> Does this mean that the SO/ACs will be asked to confirm that they will
>> participate in the Sole Designator/Empowered Community?  And that this
>> confirmation is being requested with the input expected on or around
>> December 21, 2015?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer at icann.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The notes, recordings and transcripts for the WP-1 meeting on 22
>>> November will be available here:  https://community.icann.org/x/XMJYAw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A copy of the notes and action items may be found below.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>>
>>> Action Item
>>>
>>> ·
>>> *ACTION ITEM: CoChairs to request that SO/AC confirmation of participation be sent along with input on third draft proposal*
>>>
>>> ·
>>> *ACTION ITEM: Determine where full IRP process should be added *
>>> *Notes*
>>>
>>>
>>> *These high-level notes are designed to help you navigate through content of the call and do not substitute in any way the transcript.*
>>>
>>> LInk to docs:  https://community.icann.org/x/eLRYAw
>>>
>>>
>>> - No discussion of decision threshold in engagement/escalation - it needs to be added to the powers
>>>
>>> - IANA Functions review language should be further elaborated.
>>>
>>> - IRP, separation processes need to be described in detail
>>>
>>> ACTION ITEM: Determine where full IRP process should be added
>>>
>>> - Rights of inspection: there is a generic reference - its needs to be made explicit that rights of inspection
>>> equivalent to member's
>>>
>>> DIDP should be subject to IRP - this is unclear in WS2
>>>
>>> DIDP appeals mechanisms
>>>
>>> - Human Rights - add 'if any' in human rights appendix
>>>
>>> - Ombudsman improvements missing from WS2
>>>
>>> - Add table of required threshold to core proposal
>>>
>>> - Consider reordering sections (staff to refer to Jordan's request)
>>>
>>>
>>> -Articles should be subject to co-decision but lower threshold than Fundamental Bylaws
>>>
>>>
>>> Protection should be offered to Articles of Incorporation at level of membership model
>>>
>>> Other views that should be on same protection as Fundamental Bylaw
>>>
>>> - Reinsert AOC tables into annex 9
>>>
>>>
>>> ACTION ITEM: CoChairs to request that SO/AC confirmation of participation be sent along with input on third draft proposal
>>>
>>>
>>>
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