[CCWG-ACCT] NTIA Statement on ST 18

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Thu Nov 26 15:59:37 UTC 2015


​In my observation, NTIA has avoided making any statements as direct and
specific as this, even when asked to do so.  I think that their overall
reluctance to weigh in as they have done in this instance is important to
note.

Greg

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

>
> Irony is such a hard word to define.
> Can the use of bluntness be a form of irony?  A point of rhetoric that
> is beyond me.
>
> i think it was an expression of my [finally] accepting a fact of life.
> and a definition of what NTIA meant that I had not fully understood before.
>
> This was a direct statement to the CCWG from NTIA.  Not from within a
> broader speech, nor in public statements and testimony.  Maybe they had
> made this direct a statement to the CCWG before, but I never perceived
> one in the manner I perceived this one.
>
> So just accepting the facts before me and deciding to move on in a
> manner that completes this process with the many positives it brings.
>
> avri
>
> On 26-Nov-15 10:08, Nigel Roberts wrote:
> > I did not read Avri's first sentence as ironic.  Was it? I'm shocked.
> >
> > As an aside, I've discovered that irony (and its less cultured cousin,
> > sarcasm) can lead to severe misunderstandings in an international
> > context**
> >
> >
> >
> > Nigel.
> >
> > (**I find the milder forms that we Brits use *all* the time in
> > ordinary business communication are regularly misinterpreted and taken
> > literally by native speakers of American English so I try to avoid it
> > as best I can. Sometimes I can't help myself though.)
> >
> >
> >> On 26-Nov-15 07:33, parminder wrote:
> >>>
> >
> >>> times have we heard the same outrage, and then a familar routine
> >>> follows
> >>> - so well described by the first, ironical, sentence of Avri's email.
> >>>
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