[CCWG-ACCT] FW: Continued Counsel Dialogue

[Arun Mohan Sukumar]

Jordan, I respectfully disagree. "Rolling all over the lawn", as you put
it, is an understatement.

It is the Board's concern if it wants to be led by polemic peddling as
legal counsel - the JD "high level" memo could well have been written by an
undergraduate student of political science, riffing on governance and
instability.

JD is probably fulfilling its brief, and may be the Board would like to
start asking substantial questions to it. No reason, in my opinion, why the
CCWG should deviate from our constructive role.

Arun


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On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net>
wrote:

> s/lawyers/tanks/
>
> On 04/10/15 21:11, Jordan Carter wrote:
>
>> Thanks Grace for sharing this.
>>
>> I would like suggest we certify to our lawyers an advocacy request ---
>> that is, the same thing this Jones Day memo is.
>>
>> Could Sidley and Adler be tasked with a similar memo directed at the
>> Board's MEM idea?
>>
>> [I am concerned that we have our lawyers answering specific questions,
>> and the Board's lawyers rolling all over the lawn. I would like an even
>> playing field. The memo from JD is an extraordinary document for lawyers
>> to have prepared, but if this is the sort of process we are in, it
>> requires us all to be on a common approach.]
>>
>> Jordan
>>
>> On 2 October 2015 at 17:38, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org
>> <mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     Attached please find a memo that Jones Day lawyers just sent to
>>     Sidley and Adler to respond to some of the characterizations of
>>     Jones Day's advice.
>>
>>
>>     This memo is being forwarded to the CCWG-Accountability for
>>     transparency.
>>
>>
>>     This memo was also circulated to the ICANN Board after it was sent
>>     to CCWG-Accountability's Counsel.
>>
>>
>>     —Grace
>>
>>
>>     Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>     *From:* Kate Wallace <kwallace at jonesday.com
>>>     <mailto:kwallace at jonesday.com>>
>>>     *Date:* October 1, 2015 at 8:49:24 PM PDT
>>>     *To:* "Gregory, Holly" <holly.gregory at sidley.com
>>>     <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com>>, "Rosemary E. Fei"
>>>     <rfei at adlercolvin.com <mailto:rfei at adlercolvin.com>>
>>>     *Cc:* Lizanne Thomas <lthomas at jonesday.com
>>>     <mailto:lthomas at jonesday.com>>, <jlevee at jonesday.com
>>>     <mailto:jlevee at jonesday.com>>, "Kevin B Espinola"
>>>     <kbespinola at jonesday.com <mailto:kbespinola at jonesday.com>>, John
>>>     Jeffrey <john.jeffrey at icann.org <mailto:john.jeffrey at icann.org>>,
>>>     <samantha.eisner at icann.org <mailto:samantha.eisner at icann.org>>
>>>     *Subject:* *Continued Counsel Dialogue*
>>>
>>>     Dear Holly and Rosemary,
>>>
>>>     In an effort to continue our dialogue, please see the attached
>>>     document responding to some of the issues raised in the slides you
>>>     distributed on 29 September 2015.
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Kate
>>>
>>>     Kate Wallace
>>>     Partner
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