[CCWG-ACCT] Is it reasonable to avoid new mechanisms?

[Matthew Shears]

+ 1 also

On 05/10/2015 13:54, James M. Bladel wrote:
> +1.
>
> Any claims that we must abbreviate accountability reforms in order to 
> fit the IANA transition timeline has those two priorities reversed.
>
> Sent via iPhone. Blame Siri.
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 19:44, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz 
> <mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Avri for this nice statement of one of the key dilemmas facing 
>> this group.
>>
>> The divergence between:
>>
>> - the transition can't happen until accountability is sustainable, 
>> and so that requires the member model as a foundation
>>
>> and
>>
>> - the transition can't happen if there is a significant change such 
>> as that to a member model, and so that requires ruling out the member 
>> model
>>
>>
>> is quite stark.
>>
>> FWIW my instincts are in line with Avri's. If ICANN's current level 
>> of accountability was acceptable, the community would not have 
>> demanded an accountability process alongside the transition process, 
>> and NTIA would not have agreed the two had to be intertwined and 
>> interrelated.
>>
>>
>> cheers
>> Jordan
>>
>>
>> On 1 October 2015 at 10:38, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org 
>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     The  Board's critique rests on a notion that the introduction of
>>     anything new in the ICANN system will be a destabilizing factor
>>     and most
>>     be avoided.
>>
>>     This ignores the fact that by removing the NTIA backstop we
>>     destabilize
>>     the current system. It might have been possible to find a new balance
>>     (not that the old worked that well given the amount of discontent
>>     that
>>     existed prior to the CCWG process) by tweaking the system.  The early
>>     work of the CCWG, however, showed that this was not enough.  So we
>>     decided to bring back a notion that existed in the early ICANN
>>     design,
>>     the idea of membership.  Membership has always been part of the
>>     kit that
>>     was available to ICANN in the multistakeholder model. An initial
>>     experiment met with some issues and instead of fixing that then, they
>>     threw the notion away without exploring possible tweaks to the
>>     system.
>>     As a result we are living in ICANN 2.0, a system that was 
>>     imposed in a
>>     top down manner and one that was never fully accepted by those at the
>>     bottom.
>>
>>     Now, albeit in a very different configuration, the CCWG is
>>     proposing to
>>     establish a community consensus based idea of membership. I
>>     believe that
>>     this should be given a fair analysis before rejecting it.  It is also
>>     important to remember that the NTIA requirements were not a
>>     prohibition
>>     of new mechanisms or structures, but rather evidence that these
>>     structure did not increase the current risk, or fact, of capture and
>>     that they could be held to account.
>>
>>     The Board criticism is important to look at for arguments that
>>     show the
>>     areas in which the CCWG plan either does not explain its protections
>>     against capture and its accountability checks and balances or may
>>     have
>>     gaps in these areas. If we cannot explain what we propose, or cannot
>>     close the gaps, then it becomes time to consider variations on
>>     the model
>>     or another model altogether. In my opinion, we are not there.
>>
>>     avri
>>
>>
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