[CCWG-ACCT] Is it reasonable to avoid new mechanisms?

[Kavouss Arasteh]

2015-10-05 15:38 GMT+02:00 Matthew Shears <mshears at cdt.org>:

> + 1 also
>
> On 05/10/2015 13:54, James M. Bladel wrote:
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> +1.
>
> Any claims that we must abbreviate accountability reforms in order to fit
> the IANA transition timeline has those two priorities reversed.
>
> Sent via iPhone. Blame Siri.
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 19:44, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
>
> Thanks Avri for this nice statement of one of the key dilemmas facing this
> group.
>
> The divergence between:
>
> - the transition can't happen until accountability is sustainable, and so
> that requires the member model as a foundation
>
> and
>
> - the transition can't happen if there is a significant change such as
> that to a member model, and so that requires ruling out the member model
>
>
> is quite stark.
>
> FWIW my instincts are in line with Avri's. If ICANN's current level of
> accountability was acceptable, the community would not have demanded an
> accountability process alongside the transition process, and NTIA would not
> have agreed the two had to be intertwined and interrelated.
>
>
> cheers
> Jordan
>
>
> On 1 October 2015 at 10:38, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The  Board's critique rests on a notion that the introduction of
>> anything new in the ICANN system will be a destabilizing factor and most
>> be avoided.
>>
>> This ignores the fact that by removing the NTIA backstop we destabilize
>> the current system. It might have been possible to find a new balance
>> (not that the old worked that well given the amount of discontent that
>> existed prior to the CCWG process) by tweaking the system.  The early
>> work of the CCWG, however, showed that this was not enough.  So we
>> decided to bring back a notion that existed in the early ICANN design,
>> the idea of membership.  Membership has always been part of the kit that
>> was available to ICANN in the multistakeholder model.  An initial
>> experiment met with some issues and instead of fixing that then, they
>> threw the notion away without exploring possible tweaks to the system.
>> As a result we are living in ICANN 2.0, a system that was  imposed in a
>> top down manner and one that was never fully accepted by those at the
>> bottom.
>>
>> Now, albeit in a very different configuration, the CCWG is proposing to
>> establish a community consensus based idea of membership. I believe that
>> this should be given a fair analysis before rejecting it.  It is also
>> important to remember that the NTIA requirements were not a prohibition
>> of new mechanisms or structures, but rather evidence that these
>> structure did not increase the current risk, or fact, of capture and
>> that they could be held to account.
>>
>> The Board criticism is important to look at for arguments that show the
>> areas in which the CCWG plan either does not explain its protections
>> against capture and its accountability checks and balances or may have
>> gaps in these areas. If we cannot explain what we propose, or cannot
>> close the gaps, then it becomes time to consider variations on the model
>> or another model altogether. In my opinion, we are not there.
>>
>> avri
>>
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