[CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] Agenda - WP1 mtg - 9 Oct 2015 at 1730-1930 UTC

Christopher Wilkinson lists at christopherwilkinson.eu
Fri Oct 9 17:36:10 UTC 2015


>  the only public comment calling for limitations on the community's right to recall the individual board members was from the board itself,

Actually, Robin, that is not the case:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-ccwg-accountability-03aug15/pdfgy3ZalspDh.pdf

Regards

Christopher

On 09 Oct 2015, at 05:47, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> The CCWG proposal (with which I agree on this point) provides that the specific SO/AC who appoints a board member has the power to recall (not the community-at-large).  That is the accountability tool which the California legislature provided by statute to hold board members accountable -- and it is the norm in most organizations of these types.  Restricting such a right would be a rare exception in practice.  Are there examples of other nonprofit public benefit organizations who have restricted members / designators rights of board recall in such a way?  
> 
> Attempts to restrict members / designators rights to recall the board member which they appoint carry a heavy burden of demonstrating why the California legislature got it wrong in creating this accountability tool - and why the vast majority of other organizations who do provide such statutory recall rights have not been destroyed by the power as ICANN claims will happen if this common ordinary power were to exist at ICANN.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robin
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Chris Disspain wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> What’s your position on whether it should be the electing SO/AC that can recall or a wider group?
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2015, at 10:39 , Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not sure I can make the call tomorrow, so I'll state my position against restrictions to individual director recall rights now.
>>> 
>>> Considering the only public comment calling for limitations on the community's right to recall the individual board members was from the board itself, and the consensus has consistently been for NOT restricting recall rights, but for providing rationales for recalls, I don't understand why we are forced to continue to beat this dead horse.  If two public comment periods have not been enough to create anything close to consensus to restrict the community's board recall rights, let's put this issue to bed and focus on the issues where the community is far more divided.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the proposed agenda for our next call: Friday 9 October at 17h30 UTC for up to two hours.
>>>> 
>>>> Could all those proposing documents for this meeting please circulate them ASAP, with an email subject line that identifies what your document is?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Review of Agenda
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Second review of comments analysis:
>>>> 
>>>> a) Budget power
>>>> b) Affirmation of Commitments
>>>> c) Community Forum
>>>> d) Community Mechanism as Sole Member / The Model
>>>> e) Recall of ICANN Board
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Approach to documenting our work for 12-Oct deadline
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Any Other Business
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please advise any further / other agenda items...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Jordan
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jordan Carter
>>>> 
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