[CCWG-ACCT] ALAC Statement on proposed accountability models
parminder
parminder at itforchange.net
Sun Oct 18 16:38:29 UTC 2015
On Sunday 18 October 2015 09:23 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Guru Acharya <gurcharya at gmail.com
> <mailto:gurcharya at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> In the CWG-Stewardship, he similarly fear mongered that the
> transition will fail because NTIA would reject the Contract Co
> model. That time too everybody else blinked.
>
>
> Interesting you think the proposal that came out of CWG-Stewardship
> was as a result of formal intervention from Alan (ALAC), well if thats
> is at all valid, I guess maybe ALAC deserves accolades then. ;-). We
> may want to face reality or just continue in fantasy
Yes, efforts at disruption of power concentrations are best derided as
'fantasies' by those who want to hold on to power. But then people have
a nasty democratic way of getting what is legitimately theirs (democracy
was long just a popular fantasy for autocrats)... The problem here is
that the group within the ICANN system that is supposed to represent the
'peripheries' seem even more eager than many other groups to reinforce
the status quo. That alone is the irony, although only a minor one give
the well-known manner in which the 'fantasy' of representation of ICANN
outsiders is structured within the ICANN system.
My problem at this stage is no longer much about the substance of the
matter, we know that the status quo of power in the system will be
preserved at any cost, and any democratisation would have to be got by
other means. My problem is entirely about the process: the torturous
manner in which decisions made dictatorially, to cater to narrow
interests, are being sought to be retrofitted with a 'bottom up
participatory process' that then is also sold as the model for all kinds
of governance. ALAC as the supposed rep of the 'peripheries' has a key
role in this tragi-comedy, which is being played out right now... This
joke and bluff should be called, if anyone can. I hope there is someone
in Dublin who will do it - bell the cat, I mean, getting past the
enormous gates that ICANN carefully erects against such intrusions (and
still gets away calling it an open process).
parminder
> as we all got to that stage within the CWG where it was realistically
> agreed upon that Contract-Co was at best close to fantasy and then we
> worked to develop a compromise solution which by the way was not
> entirely the preferred solution of ALAC.
>
>
>
> I really hope the community doesn't blink this time.
>
>
> Hopefully we will learn from CWG and maximize the CCWG time as much as
> possible going forward.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Alan Greenberg
> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
>
> Correct, the CCWG proposal is not dependant on a supermajorty
> of the Board supporting it, or in fact any Board support,
> since it is not one of the CCWG's chartering organizations.
>
> But that is not what I said. At the point when our recommended
> changes are to be implemented, the current Bylaws must be
> amended. Under the current Bylaws, the "Bylaws of ICANN may be
> altered, amended, or repealed and new Articles of
> Incorporation or Bylaws adopted only upon action by a
> two-thirds (2/3) vote of all members of the Board".
>
> Under their fiduciary duty, each Board member may only vote to
> adopt new Bylaws if he/she believes it is in the interest of
> ICANN and its mission and core values to do so. It was THAT
> action that I was referring to.
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 18/10/2015 09:53 AM, Chartier, Mike S wrote:
>
> The CCWG proposal is not dependent on support "by a
> supermajority of Board directors".
> The requirement is that there is not a determination that
> it is not in the global public interest by a 2/3 majority
> of the Board.
>
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> On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 9:42 AM
> To: CCWG Accountability
> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] ALAC Statement on proposed
> accountability models
>
> In its formal response to the CCWG-Accountability proposal
> issued in August 2015, the ALAC said that it could support
> the model being proposed, but preferred something far less
> complex and lighter-weight, and that we saw no need for
> the level of enforceability that the proposal provided.
> Moreover, the ALAC had specific concerns with the budget
> veto and the apparent lack of participation of perhaps a
> majority of AC/SOs.
>
> In light of the reconsideration of a designator model by
> the CCWG, along with the recommendations of the Saturday
> morning break-out sessions, the ALAC felt that a revised
> statement was in order.
> Accordingly we decided, by a unanimous vote of the 14 ALAC
> members present (with 1 not present), to withdraw support
> for the Membership model.
>
> I want to make it clear that this is not a "red line"
> decision.
> Should a Membership model become one that is generally
> advocated by the CCWG, and supported by a supermajority of
> Board directors (who ultimately MUST support any changes
> that they will be called upon to approve, else they would
> be in violation of their fiduciary duty), then the ALAC
> reserves its right to support such a model.
>
> Alan Greenberg
> Chair, At-Large Advisory Committee
>
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